Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

Why Women Must Change Too if we are to Rescue Marriage
The Financial Times ^ | July 5, 2005 | Richard Tomkins

Posted on 07/05/2005 5:31:57 AM PDT by Bon mots

click here to read article


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-20 ... 721-740741-760761-780 ... 881-900 next last
To: Eaker

Really does she watch tv? Everything from Lizzy McQuire to Sex in the City contains pieces of this type of propaganda.


741 posted on 07/06/2005 4:37:42 AM PDT by kharaku (G3 (http://www.cobolsoundsystem.com/mp3s/unreleased/evewasanape.mp3))
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 625 | View Replies]

To: SauronOfMordor
I have not encountered many women who would be content in a marriage with somebody who makes less than her. Does anybody see female executives dating sanitation men? She might date a buff construction worker occasionally, but she won't let her friends meet him. What will happen is the excess educated women will die bitter and alone. The less educated men will still be able to find women.

You are saying 2 different things. If an excess educated woman cannot find a man, then an undereducated man will not find a woman - it is the same equation from different sides.... and that is what women of the future will have to "change".

Currently, men will marry "down", it is not uncommon for a man to marry a less paid woman, a waitress, or whatever, but you rarely find women marrying "down". Since the men of the future will be less educated and less paid, women will either have to adjust/change, or else neither the less educated man or the excess educated woman will find someone.

742 posted on 07/06/2005 4:37:57 AM PDT by SandyB
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 596 | View Replies]

To: Rca2000
I have sat here, reading all of your posts. I see how you seem to RELISH in telling us all here, how "men don't go to college, and are uneducated, nowdays", and how "60% of college grads are women, blah.. blah.. blah... You leave out ONE little factor-- MOST OF THE "BIG LEAGUE" COLLEGES YOU SPEAK OF ACCEPT ONLY ABOUT one MAN, FOR EVER 3 or 4 WOMEN, "to make things fair" . So, what do you expect to see, in that regard???

The colleges are trying to get more males, but the males wont go to college. Lots of colleges are even taking boys with lower grades in order to try to get more males into school - there is an active affirmative action out there to recruit dumber males.

SCU in the News

A Growing Gender Gap Tests College Admissions By Peter Y. Hong Los Angeles Times Staff Writer November 21, 2004

When admissions officers for Santa Clara University recruit new freshmen, they do their best to reach the kind of students they'd like to see more of on the Silicon Valley campus: boys.

"We make a special pitch to them to talk about the benefits of Santa Clara, as we do for other underrepresented groups," Charles Nolan, Santa Clara's vice provost for admissions, said of the school's efforts to boost male applicants.

It's a startling development to anyone who remembers that Santa Clara was all male until 1960. But the Jesuit-run school reflects an important transformation of American college life. Among the 4,550 undergraduates at Santa Clara, 57% are female. That matches the percentage of U.S. bachelor's degrees now awarded to women, a demographic shift that has accelerated since women across the country began to attend college at a higher rate than men about a decade ago.

Today, many colleges, particularly selective residential schools, face a dilemma unthinkable a generation ago. To place well in influential college rankings, those schools must enroll as many top high school students as they can — and most of those students are female. Administrators are watching closely for the "tipping point" at which schools become unappealing to both men and women. They fear that lopsided male-female ratios will hurt the social life and diverse classrooms they use as selling points.

Despite employing the same tactics used for years to lure ethnic minority students, few colleges say they give admissions preferences to boys. But high school counselors and admissions experts say they believe it is happening.

"At some schools, it's definitely a strategic advantage" to be male, said Chuck Hughes, a former Harvard admissions officer who is now a private admissions counselor and author of "What it Really Takes to Get into the Ivy League and Other Highly Selective Colleges." Vincent Garcia, a college counselor at the Los Angeles prep school Campbell Hall, said liberal arts colleges, especially, can be "more forgiving of the occasional B or even a C" from a boy. "Sometimes the expectation is a little bit less" than for girls, he said.

743 posted on 07/06/2005 4:44:59 AM PDT by SandyB
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 608 | View Replies]

To: Bon mots

"In the US, according to the latest time-use survey from the bureau of labour statistics, employed women spend on average an hour a day more than employed men on housework and childcare; but employed men spend an hour a day longer doing paid work."

When Hubby Does Housework Guess Who Milks the Cows

(Click "View Larger") - From an 1850's engraving

744 posted on 07/06/2005 4:52:55 AM PDT by MensRightsActivist
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: MrNatural
..a bicycle mechanic .. and his main squeeze is a Phd ..

Call me when they get married, and have kids.

Exactly. Lots of women "date" down, because they have to, but few "marry" down.

That is the problem, and it will have to change someday as fewer and fewer men have degrees or good jobs. And when it does change and it is the woman who has the good job, and makes most of the money, it will be the woman who is in control of the relationship (because she is the one with the money).

Ultimately, most decisions that will have to be made, what house to buy, where the summer home is, what cars, clothes, where and when vacations are to be taken, etc, will all depend on the wife's career and her decision on whether to spend the money. The lower paid less educated husband will be allowed to persuade her, but it will still be up to her to make all the big decisions.

745 posted on 07/06/2005 5:03:17 AM PDT by SandyB
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 643 | View Replies]

To: SauronOfMordor

You are scarily right on with like 99% of your posts.


746 posted on 07/06/2005 5:20:10 AM PDT by chris1 ("Make the other guy die for his country" - George S. Patton Jr.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 734 | View Replies]

To: SauronOfMordor

Damm, another great post! Too many women think they are really sexy when they are really not and look down on many decent guys that show interest. I have seen so many slobs think they are good looking when they are really not and act like they are.


747 posted on 07/06/2005 5:23:03 AM PDT by chris1 ("Make the other guy die for his country" - George S. Patton Jr.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 739 | View Replies]

To: Melas
I think you'd find we could all squirrel away fortunes if we lived as spartan a lifestyle as they lived then.

You make a good point, but there's no changing the fact that the government takes much more of our money than it did 50 years ago.

748 posted on 07/06/2005 5:28:01 AM PDT by Aquinasfan (Isaiah 22:22, Rev 3:7, Mat 16:19)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 560 | View Replies]

To: Melas
"Divorce is a symptom, not the problem."

Largely true. But no-fault divorce makes divorce much easier, and often "profitable" for the wife.

749 posted on 07/06/2005 5:32:59 AM PDT by Aquinasfan (Isaiah 22:22, Rev 3:7, Mat 16:19)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 415 | View Replies]

To: Melas
Marriage should be saved, because in this crazy, messed up, cruel world, there is no sanctuary like a happy marriage. Nothing else even comes to that particular balm.

True. Especially when work is crazy 8-)

750 posted on 07/06/2005 5:34:50 AM PDT by Aquinasfan (Isaiah 22:22, Rev 3:7, Mat 16:19)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 409 | View Replies]

To: Melas

There are tons of man-hating, traditional family hating, radical/gender feminists in - - - drum roll please - - - the blue areas of the country. Yes, California, Massachusettes, New York, Colorado, etc. They live under the Democratic big tent.

I'm most familiar with the elected ones in CA: Barbara Boxer, Diane Feinstein, Nancy Perlosi, Maxine Waters, Sheila Kuehl, Jackie Goldberg, Rebecca Cohn, etc.


751 posted on 07/06/2005 5:45:00 AM PDT by MensRightsActivist
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 557 | View Replies]

To: Bon mots

I think one message has to get out: When you divorce, you divorce not your spouse, but your family (and it doesn't matter who "gets" the kids). Ask the children of divorced parents, they'll tell you. Fortunately, this factor has convinced many of the generation now entering adulthood that they need to put more work into the relationship before marriage, to ensure that they will never do the same to their own children.


752 posted on 07/06/2005 5:47:59 AM PDT by I_dmc
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: SandyB
The colleges are trying to get more males, but the males wont go to college. There is an active affirmative action out there to recruit dumber males. (SCU in the News)

I see you reacted predictably, ignoring facts and repeating nonsense. Hey if it makes you feeling superior, have at it...guys love that trait. I love the part using SCU as indicative of all men in the US. Wasn't Fernwood Community College available for comment? I'll retype the UVA 2004 stats from my previous post to you for the learning impaired.

Engineering-undergrad .... 75% Male
Engineering-Graduate ....77% Male
MBA ....76% Male

UVA 2004

753 posted on 07/06/2005 6:56:02 AM PDT by T. Jefferson
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 743 | View Replies]

To: Kelly_2000

I don't think your point was clear and that is why the discussion bogged down into a semantic dispute.

The goals of the Lesbians was clearly articulated in the 70s when they announced the changes that were going to be forced within the major feminist organizations. Since the leadership does not really believe equality can be achieved as long as men and women operate within the same framework seperation must be the intent. Lesbianism and faggotry are the ultimate seperation.


754 posted on 07/06/2005 6:56:26 AM PDT by justshutupandtakeit (Public Enemy #1, the RATmedia.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 651 | View Replies]

To: I_dmc

Actually I think it's created a generation intent to sleep together, not necessarily exclusivly for several years before contemplating marriage.


755 posted on 07/06/2005 6:57:20 AM PDT by kharaku (G3 (http://www.cobolsoundsystem.com/mp3s/unreleased/evewasanape.mp3))
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 752 | View Replies]

To: T. Jefferson

Please post a list of scholariships available to white male students going into technology fields.


756 posted on 07/06/2005 6:58:07 AM PDT by kharaku (G3 (http://www.cobolsoundsystem.com/mp3s/unreleased/evewasanape.mp3))
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 753 | View Replies]

To: justshutupandtakeit
The point often missed, mostly by feminist, is that equality is not congruency. Men and Women are already equal, but feminist insist on being congruent, IE eliminating their feminine traits and excelling only at male traits. If this issue was only about equal pay it would have taken 5 years max, it's not, it's about a massive propaganda attempt to eliminate femininity in women by feminists.
757 posted on 07/06/2005 7:00:30 AM PDT by kharaku (G3 (http://www.cobolsoundsystem.com/mp3s/unreleased/evewasanape.mp3))
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 754 | View Replies]

To: exnavychick; Tax-chick

I don't know how knowledge of the Spanish Armada relates to Iraq but it gets extremely tiresome to hear the nonsense about public education which appears to be gospel here. My late wife was a public school teacher and there never was a better. My sons went to public and private schools in Chicago. The former is a Navy Nuke the latter a senior at IIT on the Dean's List.

Ideological blinders draw my attention and comment.


758 posted on 07/06/2005 7:03:07 AM PDT by justshutupandtakeit (Public Enemy #1, the RATmedia.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 517 | View Replies]

To: Fawn

Spaying them.


759 posted on 07/06/2005 7:05:44 AM PDT by justshutupandtakeit (Public Enemy #1, the RATmedia.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 533 | View Replies]

To: kharaku

I agree with the thrust of your comment if not the use of the word "congruent."


760 posted on 07/06/2005 7:07:05 AM PDT by justshutupandtakeit (Public Enemy #1, the RATmedia.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 757 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-20 ... 721-740741-760761-780 ... 881-900 next last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson