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Why Women Must Change Too if we are to Rescue Marriage
The Financial Times ^ | July 5, 2005 | Richard Tomkins

Posted on 07/05/2005 5:31:57 AM PDT by Bon mots

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To: HitmanNY

Agreed 100%. I am an attorney and started my own practice and would never look back. I had a few WASP SOB bosses I wanted to strangle and then flew the coop. I love my life now and do whatever I want, pretty much when I want.

My GF is a divorce and probate attorney. I sometimes wish she would quit and do something else as it is a terrible way to earn a living.


401 posted on 07/05/2005 11:56:54 AM PDT by chris1 ("Make the other guy die for his country" - George S. Patton Jr.)
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To: Sirloin

Heaven knows, I'm hungry all the time. ;-)


402 posted on 07/05/2005 11:58:28 AM PDT by HitmanLV
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To: wolfman
Th problem with marriage? Slidden morality. Money is the god...

Yep. The problem in a nutshell. Ye cannot serve God and Mammon.

403 posted on 07/05/2005 11:58:51 AM PDT by Rytwyng
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To: Sirloin

Heaven knows, I'm hungry all the time. ;-)


404 posted on 07/05/2005 11:59:06 AM PDT by HitmanLV
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To: SandyB
It is supply and demand, and more educated higher paid women are demanding males that are paid better and educated better than they are, but males are reducing themselves making the available male pool smaller when it should be getting larger.

Well, that should mean that uneducated females are having a field day.
405 posted on 07/05/2005 12:01:08 PM PDT by BikerNYC
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To: Enterprise
"Indeed! Here are some of your feminist leaders. Their "perspectives" are just dandy! LOL! ! !",p> What feminist leaders? now you are putting words in my mouth, if you keep pulling these juvenille stunts i will ignore you. debate properly like an adult
406 posted on 07/05/2005 12:01:25 PM PDT by Kelly_2000 (Because they stand on a wall and say nothing is going to hurt you tonight. Not on my watch)
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To: tahotdog

And what is the necessity of that? My children were born when their mother was 32 and 34 respectively, and it hasn't been a complete disaster.


407 posted on 07/05/2005 12:02:41 PM PDT by Melas (Lives in state of disbelief)
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To: Rytwyng
Sadly, since women (but not men) have a genetic inclination to marry "up", status-wise, and our society considers a college degree a mark of status, that means that millions of these young college-"educated" women will NEVER find a man that meets their "standards". I've also known ultra-successful career types who kept meeting men who ought to have been good matches, yet, somehow they just "couldn't" find any of these decent middleclass men attractive. They were holding out for men of their own "class", but those men are all dating 20 year old models.

I think you have summed up the article, and the problem. You say it better than I do. More higher educated women are demanding men more educated than they are,but there are fewer males who are better educated than females, not more.

408 posted on 07/05/2005 12:04:06 PM PDT by SandyB
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To: Aquinasfan

You forgot the most important one: Marriage should be saved, because in this crazy, messed up, cruel world, there is no sanctuary like a happy marriage. Nothing else even comes to that particular balm.


409 posted on 07/05/2005 12:04:48 PM PDT by Melas (Lives in state of disbelief)
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To: Nowhere Man; SandyB

"Being a Pittsburgher (yes I'm a Steeler's fan B-D) and coming from working class roots, I don't deny my economic centrist views come from that but yeah, I'd like to do a study on free-trade vs. fair-trade on the basis of current jobs and family background."

I'm not a psycho... being a Steelers fan is just a Browns fan who likes Black and Gold, (and has had a lot more success lately!).
It's funny how free traders wrap themselves in the flag. They are every bit as dangerous as some of the looney left. They don't care about their country, or about their neighbors or about anything but their portfolio. How shallow, how devoid of vision.
Glad there are a few like us here.
I'm too old, and too married... maybe you are young and single enough? SandyB needs a guy like one of us. ;)


410 posted on 07/05/2005 12:04:50 PM PDT by brownsfan (Post No Bills)
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To: Fred Hayek
"BTW Naziism (National Socialism) is a LEFT view."

fascism is a far right extreme right wing ideology. It is politically opposite to communism the left wing extreme

411 posted on 07/05/2005 12:05:10 PM PDT by Kelly_2000 (Because they stand on a wall and say nothing is going to hurt you tonight. Not on my watch)
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To: T. Jefferson

what on earth is that supposed to mean? did you even read the thread?


412 posted on 07/05/2005 12:06:03 PM PDT by Kelly_2000 (Because they stand on a wall and say nothing is going to hurt you tonight. Not on my watch)
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To: HitmanNY
Scatching your lady's itches is a lot of fun. ;-)

Unless she insists on having them scratched without bearing the responsibility of telling you where they are, and reserves the right to punish when you get it wrong.

413 posted on 07/05/2005 12:06:13 PM PDT by papertyger (Power concedes nothing without a demand. – Frederick Douglass)
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To: BikerNYC
It is supply and demand, and more educated higher paid women are demanding males that are paid better and educated better than they are, but males are reducing themselves making the available male pool smaller when it should be getting larger.

Well, that should mean that uneducated females are having a field day.

They always have. Same thing with short women. Short women who are not educated, have a bigger selection to choose from.

Whereas: a tall, highly educated, high paid conservative woman only has about 11 single men out there to choose from.

414 posted on 07/05/2005 12:07:14 PM PDT by SandyB
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To: Aquinasfan
The root of the problem is no-fault divorce, isn't it?

You guys keep saying that, and I keep repeating, "Divorce is a symptom, not the problem.". The problem is that married couples are seeking divorce, not that divorce is available. You'd just have a slightly different problem if these couples were seeking divorces, and they weren't available. The goal should be to reduce the number of unhappy marriages, not to bar the exit.

415 posted on 07/05/2005 12:08:58 PM PDT by Melas (Lives in state of disbelief)
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To: SandyB
Whereas: a tall, highly educated, high paid conservative woman only has about 11 single men out there to choose from.

ROFLMAO!!!

//snort|| thanks.

416 posted on 07/05/2005 12:09:23 PM PDT by najida (The hardest person to forgive is yourself.)
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To: randita

Just curious, but what generation do you call your own? If you pre-date the boomers, I'll consider your opinion as valid, If on the other hand you're just another bitter xer that hates everyone born before you....well...it goes without saying.


417 posted on 07/05/2005 12:11:47 PM PDT by Melas (Lives in state of disbelief)
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To: softwarecreator

Explain this further. You can't seriously expect us to beleive that 3/5 of your kid's classmates are gay or leaning that way. How do you judge the leaning that way kids anyway?


418 posted on 07/05/2005 12:13:24 PM PDT by Melas (Lives in state of disbelief)
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To: Kelly_2000
I don't believe that communism is the opposite of the Nazi philosophy. The only difference is in fascism a small group of rich profit from some controlled capitalism.
419 posted on 07/05/2005 12:14:02 PM PDT by RHINO369
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To: Melas

I dunno boys are more and more and more girlish these days...


420 posted on 07/05/2005 12:14:41 PM PDT by kharaku (G3 (http://www.cobolsoundsystem.com/mp3s/unreleased/evewasanape.mp3))
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