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Researchers explore whether parrot has concept of zero
World Science ^ | July 2, 2005

Posted on 07/04/2005 5:44:16 PM PDT by upchuck

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I wonder if Alex knows what zero minus zero is.

Or, how 'bout nuthin' from nuthin'?

1 posted on 07/04/2005 5:44:17 PM PDT by upchuck
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To: upchuck

At Dad's house we watch squirrels and bluejays eat out of Dad's hand. Both squirrels and bluejays pick up the offered peanuts and seem to weigh them--taking the heavier of the options.

Go figger.


2 posted on 07/04/2005 5:45:45 PM PDT by bannie (The government which robs Peter to pay Paul can always depend upon the support of Paul.)
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Bet he tries to divide by zero.


3 posted on 07/04/2005 5:46:19 PM PDT by RightWhale (withdraw from the 1967 UN Outer Space Treaty)
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I wonder how much of our tax dollars went to fund this important research?


4 posted on 07/04/2005 5:47:08 PM PDT by Brilliant
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Or, how 'bout nuthin' from nuthin'?

... leaves nuthin'.

5 posted on 07/04/2005 5:47:14 PM PDT by JennysCool (Be good, and you will be lonesome. - Mark Twain)
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They have no concept of zero.

They do, however, pine for the fjords.

6 posted on 07/04/2005 5:47:23 PM PDT by martin_fierro (< |:)~)
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To: upchuck

My dog understands a similar concept. Sometimes I throw him a scrap of food from the counter, and he naturally waits for another piece. I put up my hands, palms open, and say "all gone." He goes into the other room and sits down.


7 posted on 07/04/2005 5:48:20 PM PDT by July 4th (A vacant lot cancelled out my vote for Bush.)
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Lets see if these researchers understand the concept of zero, starting with their paychecks and grant money.


8 posted on 07/04/2005 5:48:21 PM PDT by cripplecreek (I zot trolls for fun and profit.)
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LOL!!!


9 posted on 07/04/2005 5:48:45 PM PDT by upchuck ("If our nation be destroyed, it would be from the judiciary." ~ Thomas Jefferson)
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Alex must be shown Hillary Clinton, and how much crackers the average parrot will have left after taxes if she is elected President. "Zero zero zero baaawwk! Zero zero zero baaawwk! Alex has zero crackers! Bawk!"


10 posted on 07/04/2005 5:50:12 PM PDT by EdHallick (All you base belong to us and you shoe too)
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Numerei ficti - "ficticious numbers", before the 16th century, used to denote all negative numbers.

Compare that to the implications of Einstein's special theory of relativity, that you can exceed the speed of light, but you can't come back.

Food for thought. LOL.

11 posted on 07/04/2005 5:51:56 PM PDT by patton ("Fool," said my Muse to me, "look in thy heart, and write.")
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Alex must be shown Hillary Clinton

Please! Alex is 28 years old. Must not scare an old parrot like that. Just hearing her voice might do him in. :)

12 posted on 07/04/2005 5:54:09 PM PDT by upchuck ("If our nation be destroyed, it would be from the judiciary." ~ Thomas Jefferson)
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that you can exceed the speed of light, but you can't come back.

Is that sorta like, "You can never go home again?" :)

13 posted on 07/04/2005 5:56:39 PM PDT by upchuck ("If our nation be destroyed, it would be from the judiciary." ~ Thomas Jefferson)
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To: cripplecreek

Sorry to inform you, but Alex is a privately owned pet.

Someone show me their dog or cat with a 1000+ word vocabulary, that can initiate conversations. Not just answer questions, but actually communicate.


14 posted on 07/04/2005 5:57:18 PM PDT by datura (Molon Labe)
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To: upchuck

After hearing about Alex a while back, I did a bunch of internet searches about parrot behavior and intelligence.

When I finally quit a few hours later, the hairs on the back of my neck were standing up. Straight up!

For an animal with a brain smaller than a walnut, their perceptions, acuity, and reasoning are, well, frightening.

I suspect the reason it hasn't been studied alot more is that it might basically throw 100 years of psychiatry and neurology out the window.


15 posted on 07/04/2005 5:57:24 PM PDT by djf (Government wants the same things I do - MY guns, MY property, MY freedoms!)
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Try having birds for pets.......They're like children. Except they don't grow up and go away - they remain pretty much as children until they get old.


16 posted on 07/04/2005 6:00:46 PM PDT by datura (Molon Labe)
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28 isn't old, most large parrots live to be as old as humans.

My two macaws are smarter than some of my college students.

Their vocabularies exceed the average LA Unified School District high-school student.


17 posted on 07/04/2005 6:02:03 PM PDT by 4Liberty (I would rather be exposed to the inconveniences of too much liberty, than too little. Tom Jefferson)
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I don't know - what is that line from?

See, Einstein always said one cannot exceed the speed of light - but his math says, one can.

But your odds of coming back are infintessimally small - like finding a razor-blade, edge on, in the pacific ocean.

Your milage may vary.

18 posted on 07/04/2005 6:02:12 PM PDT by patton ("Fool," said my Muse to me, "look in thy heart, and write.")
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high-school student = high-school student's. (vocab.)


19 posted on 07/04/2005 6:04:57 PM PDT by 4Liberty (I would rather be exposed to the inconveniences of too much liberty, than too little. Tom Jefferson)
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Yeah - they're great! Parrots rrrwaa-ck!


20 posted on 07/04/2005 6:06:04 PM PDT by 4Liberty (I would rather be exposed to the inconveniences of too much liberty, than too little. Tom Jefferson)
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