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United Church of Christ endorses same-sex marriage

Posted on 07/04/2005 2:33:47 PM PDT by kcvl

Associated Press Writer

ATLANTA (AP) - The United Church of Christ's rule-making body voted overwhelmingly Monday to approve a resolution endorsing same-sex marriage, making it the largest Christian denomination to do so.

The vote is not binding on individual churches, but could cause some congregations to leave the fold.

Roughly 80 percent of the representatives on the church's 884-member General Synod voted to approve the resolution Monday, a day after a smaller committee recommended it.

The Rev. John H. Thomas, president of the United Church of Christ, said with the vote on Independence Day, the rule-making body ``acted courageously to declare freedom.''

The resolution calls on member churches of the liberal denomination of 1.3 million to consider wedding policies ``that do not discriminate against couples based on gender.''

It also asks churches to consider supporting legislation granting equal marriage rights to gay and lesbian couples and to work against laws banning gay marriage.

A small group of conservative congregations had proposed an alternative resolution defining marriage as between a man and a woman, and suggested that supporting gay marriage could lead to the church's collapse.

The Rev. Brett Becker, who represents a group of the UCC's more conservative churches, said it's possible his congregation at St. Paul United Church of Christ in Cibolo, Texas, will leave the church over the resolution.

``I would like to see us stay in the denomination and network for positive change,'' said Becker. ``However, many of my members have expressed very clearly that this decision would cause great consternation and that, if this happened, they would want to see us leave.''

UCC leaders said individual churches have not been polled about their views.

Formed in 1957 and traditionally strong in New England, the United Church of Christ has a tradition of support for gays and lesbians. It is distinct from the more conservative Churches of Christ, which has some 2 million members in the U.S.

The UCC was criticized last year for its television advertising campaign featuring a gay couple, among others, being excluded from a church. CBS and NBC rejected the 30-second ads.

In the early 1970s, the UCC became the first major Christian church to ordain an openly gay minister. The church declared itself to be ``open and affirming'' of gays and lesbians 20 years ago.

``This is a significant moment,'' said the Rev. Rebecca Voelkel, of Cleveland, coordinator of a church coalition addressing gay and lesbian issues. She said the decision emphasizes that lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender people are ``spiritual people who love and are loved by God.''

But Becker said he doesn't think Monday's vote was representative of the wishes of most church members.

``If we had put it to a vote of the people in the pews, it would have failed overwhelmingly,'' he said. ``This is truly Independence Day for the UCC - we have declared ourselves independent from the teachings of Jesus and the clear teachings of Scripture.''

UCC churches are autonomous, meaning the General Synod does not create policy for its more than 5,700 congregations.

Some opponents of the resolution preferred alternative language endorsing same-sex ``covenanted relationships.''

``I will find it much easier to sell back home, and quite frankly, to live with personally, if we replace 'marriage' with 'covenanted relationship,''' said Harlan Hall, a synod member from Wisconsin.

An amendment that would have made that change in language was overwhelmingly voted down, as were efforts to postpone a vote until next year.

In last fall's elections, gay marriage bans were handily approved in all 11 states that held referendums, including Georgia.

Homosexuality has also been a divisive issue for a number of churches.

The Anglican Communion has been divided since its U.S. branch, the Episcopal Church, consecrated an openly gay bishop in 2003. The United Methodist Church is also debating a panel's decision to reinstate a gay minister who had been defrocked.

This summer, a special task force of the Presbyterian Church (U.S.A.) is set to finish its report about how to overcome severe disagreements on gay relationships and other issues.

No hard data exist on how many gays and lesbians are in the UCC.

Voelkel said about 2,000 people are on her group's mailing list and about 1,000 clergy or seminarians are gay. The denomination has 10,323 ordained ministers.


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1 posted on 07/04/2005 2:33:47 PM PDT by kcvl
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To: kcvl
Is this the church that has the ad with the two skin heads from "other Churches" keeping out black, Asian and lesbians? Why is this news if it is... They were basically advertising that they are the gay church.
2 posted on 07/04/2005 2:36:25 PM PDT by max_rpf
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To: kcvl
Has someone got a scorecard or a synopsis of the history to help poor me keep the various Churches of Christ firured out?

SO9

3 posted on 07/04/2005 2:38:31 PM PDT by Servant of the 9 (Trust Me)
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To: kcvl

I am feeling more Christ like by not being a member of any church.


4 posted on 07/04/2005 2:43:35 PM PDT by Judge Roy
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To: kcvl

"The United Church of Christ's rule-making body voted overwhelmingly Monday to approve a resolution endorsing same-sex marriage"

It aint 'United' and its not the 'Church of Christ'.
Rather a heretical brand posing as the authentic. BEWARE False name bearers of Christianity.


5 posted on 07/04/2005 2:44:15 PM PDT by tflabo (Take authority that's ours)
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To: max_rpf


The Rev. Barry W. Lynn, an attorney and ordained minister, is the executive director of Americans United for Separation of Church and State in Washington, D.C.

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It's the same church that Barry Lynn (Separation of Church & State idiot) claims he is a clergy for.

6 posted on 07/04/2005 2:47:22 PM PDT by kcvl
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To: kcvl

"The Rev. John H. Thomas, president of the United Church of Christ, said with the vote on Independence Day, the rule-making body ``acted courageously to declare freedom.""

And who cares what the Bible says!


7 posted on 07/04/2005 2:48:54 PM PDT by mlc9852
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To: kcvl

God help us


8 posted on 07/04/2005 2:51:53 PM PDT by rface ("...the most schizoid freeper I've ever seen" - New Bloomfield, Missouri)
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To: kcvl; little jeremiah

Apostate Ping~


9 posted on 07/04/2005 2:52:29 PM PDT by ItsOurTimeNow ("Para espanol, marque el dos.")
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To: kcvl
Oh, yeah . . . the Unitarians Considering Christ.

Now if we could just get the heretical Episcopalians and the mean short haired "sisters" among the Catholics to head on over to the UCC, where I'm sure they'll feel quite welcome . . .

10 posted on 07/04/2005 2:53:26 PM PDT by AnAmericanMother (. . . Ministrix of ye Chace (recess appointment), TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary . . .)
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To: kcvl

My congregation left the UCC 5 years ago. It wasn't soon enough. They should leave the word "Christ" out of their name. The denomination was targeted by the Gays and Lesbians and "Liberals" as soon as it was founded in 1957.
They took over by controlling the representatives to the National Meeting and then voting in what they wanted. Most members don't believe what the National does and since each congregation is autonomous they ignore it. We belonged to a reform group that tried to move to the center but it was too late. So we left. Back to our Evangelical roots.


11 posted on 07/04/2005 3:02:34 PM PDT by golfisnr1 (Democrats are like roaches, hard to get rid of.>)
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To: kcvl
"gobbling a nauseating 49 dogs in 12 minutes"

oh sorry thats the story after this...ooops

12 posted on 07/04/2005 3:11:04 PM PDT by badpacifist (American media...Petty is their nature , tragic their effect.)
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To: kcvl
I am always amused that a church votes on anything ... when did these people stop following the will of God. I am sorry but God is not a God by consensus.
13 posted on 07/04/2005 3:13:50 PM PDT by svcw
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To: svcw

If I ever got the chance I would ask them: "What, if anything, do you consider a sin?" I wonder if they even acknowledge right and wrong. I wonder if they think Jesus died for our sins or was he just a helpless schmuck mowed down by"the man".


14 posted on 07/04/2005 3:21:02 PM PDT by IrishCatholic (No local communist or socialist party chapter? Join the Democrats, it's the same thing.)
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To: svcw
Oh so true. It is time for Christians to stand up for what is right and stop caving to the "feel goodism" so prominent ion todays "so called" Christian churches.
If these churches followed the really teachings of Christ, the world would be a better place.
15 posted on 07/04/2005 3:22:32 PM PDT by roylene
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To: golfisnr1
They took over by controlling the representatives to the National Meeting and then voting in what they wanted.

The same thing happened in most other denominations as well. Don't bother trying to get your church out of that mess either. They'll just confiscate your assets including the church building.

16 posted on 07/04/2005 3:33:59 PM PDT by kcvl
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To: kcvl
Their new "families" will be wanting to teach Sunday School.
17 posted on 07/04/2005 3:39:03 PM PDT by Mike Darancette (Mesocons for Rice '08)
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To: roylene

Oh so true. It is time for Christians to stand up for what is right and stop caving to the "feel goodism" so prominent ion todays "so called" Christian churches.
If these churches followed the really teachings of Christ, the world would be a better place.
oops .... not ion but IN / not really but REAL


18 posted on 07/04/2005 3:39:14 PM PDT by roylene
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To: Servant of the 9

UCC is probably the most left-leaning denomination in the U.S. (no small feat). See post 11 for more details. My parents go to a combined UCC and Methodist church - the Bible hasn't made the banned book list yet (probably thanks to the Methodists), but I'm sure it will in the near future. (I went there a few years ago to humor my parents - the sermon was one of the Psalms told from the point of view of a tree. It was a good thing I hadn't had lunch yet, because I would have lost it for sure.)

They are not to be confused with the quirky but mostly conservative Church of Christ. (Summary: Pro inerrancy of scripture, fairly autonomous local congregations, mixed bag on perseverance of the saints (once saved, always saved). Arminian view of election. No instrumental music in many of the churches for reasons I never really understood.) Related groups: Christian Church (basically the same, but with instrumental music) and Disciples of Christ (the liberal wing of Christian Church.)


19 posted on 07/04/2005 3:41:27 PM PDT by Gil4 (Home is where the Air Force sends me!)
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To: Gil4; Servant of the 9

Just to clarify - "related groups" in the second paragraph of my post refers to groups related to the Church of Christ, not the UCC.


20 posted on 07/04/2005 3:45:21 PM PDT by Gil4 (Home is where the Air Force sends me!)
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