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1 posted on 07/03/2005 3:25:55 PM PDT by ItsJeff
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Or did Canada offer Toyota a bigger bribe?


2 posted on 07/03/2005 3:26:41 PM PDT by mewzilla (Property must be secured or liberty cannot exist. John Adams)
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To: ItsJeff

It's not really that surpising.


4 posted on 07/03/2005 3:27:48 PM PDT by MarkeyD (I really, really loathe liberals.)
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...Nissan and Honda have encountered difficulties getting new plants up to full production in recent years in Mississippi and Alabama due to an untrained - and often illiterate - workforce. In Alabama, trainers had to use "pictorials" to teach some illiterate workers how to use high-tech plant equipment.

Oh, Lord.

6 posted on 07/03/2005 3:29:38 PM PDT by ItsJeff
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The unions sent another plant packing.


7 posted on 07/03/2005 3:29:39 PM PDT by YOUGOTIT
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To: ItsJeff

I hope that the "too illiterate" Americans have enough sense NOT to buy a Toyota vehicle.


9 posted on 07/03/2005 3:31:23 PM PDT by GOPologist ("On some days you may feel like a dog; on other days you may feel like a hydrant!")
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"The educational level and the skill level of the people down there is so much lower than it is in Ontario," Fedchun said.

...and on another thread; American teachers are mewling for a generous salary increase.

10 posted on 07/03/2005 3:32:30 PM PDT by who knows what evil? (New England...the Sodom and Gomorrah of the 21st Century, and proud of it!)
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Too illiterate? Canada must have more literate illegal aliens.


13 posted on 07/03/2005 3:37:16 PM PDT by Robert Lomax
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someone ought to send a copy of that to every union school in the u.s.


15 posted on 07/03/2005 3:39:43 PM PDT by ken21 (it takes a village to brainwash your child + to steal your property! /s)
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Canadian workers are also $4 to $5 cheaper to employ partly thanks to the taxpayer-funded health-care system in Canada

So the Canadian taxpayers pay for Toyota's benefit pkg.
21 posted on 07/03/2005 3:45:33 PM PDT by Liberty Valance (The New York Times ~ Now 89% Fact Free!)
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bookmarking for a fascinating discussion


23 posted on 07/03/2005 3:45:51 PM PDT by andyandval (Try flushing a book down the toilet....get back to me on how you did)
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Somehow I think this has more to do with not hiring blacks than illiterate rednecks. How many black workers are in Ontario, I bet not that many. As opposed to Mississippi and Alabama.

I know Toyota isnt opposed to blacks buying their cars, just building them.


24 posted on 07/03/2005 3:46:32 PM PDT by sgtbono2002
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Let me get this straight -- these vastly more intelligent people live in god-awful weather, with a much higher cost of living and they work for up to $5 less an hour. Seeing as how Hyundai is paying $24 an hr here -- that mean these "superbly intelligent" people are working in high tech jobs for less than $20/hour.

Yep, they sure are smart.

40 posted on 07/03/2005 4:00:21 PM PDT by commish (Freedom Tastes Sweetest to Those Who Have Fought to Preserve It)
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At least Canada has an understandable organizing principle, it is called socialism. In America, we have no such organizing principle other than those in power selling out to the highest bidder. Which is to say the Japanese would rather invest in the certain path which Canada is heading down rather than the uncertain path which these two corrupt parties here in this country have chosen. At the rate that our federal government, our state governments, our local governments, as well as the American consumer is accumulating debt, who is to say who will own us in twenty years. My feeling is that the Japanese would rather invest capital in the certainty created by a conservative government and a conservative populace, but hey that ain't the US of A in the 21st century.


48 posted on 07/03/2005 4:14:34 PM PDT by Biblebelter
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I was in a local small-town cafe yesterday, and overheard two redneck ladies discussing cockfighting. One said her husband was putting in two roosters for $4,000. She punched buttons on a calculator and announced to her friend: Top prize split between two winners winning 7 straight fights was to be 128 grand. She must have whipped out some quick math: $2000 x 2 to the seventh, divided by two. (Was the fighting to be held in neighboring Louisiana, where it is legal?)

Who said southern redneck American cockfighters are illiterate, and can't build blood-red Toyotas?


56 posted on 07/03/2005 4:20:37 PM PDT by Dark Glasses and Corncob Pipe (14, 15, 16...whatever!)
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I hope they plan on selling their little cars in Canada, because when this gets out, they won't be selling many here.


58 posted on 07/03/2005 4:21:20 PM PDT by McGavin999
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this is such BS - we have displaced workers from industries that have been offshored to china and india - with college educations.


65 posted on 07/03/2005 4:28:37 PM PDT by oceanview
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TOYOTA DIDN'T SAY THIS! A Canadian person who has a vested interest in denigrating the southern proposals said it.
"... said Gerry Fedchun, president of the Automotive Parts Manufacturers' Association, whose members will see increased business with the new plant."
"Follow the money" as they say.
92 posted on 07/03/2005 4:55:10 PM PDT by FreedomCalls (It's the "Statue of Liberty," not the "Statue of Security.")
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Unfortunately, this is true. Fruehauf built a plant in Scott County, TN back in the mid-1980's in order to cut costs in building flatbed trailers. It had all the latest equipment in it.

Each flatbed trailer had about 40 manhours of labor in it when built in Indiana. The union workers in IN made about $12 per hour. The ones they hired in TN made about $6 per hour. The difference of about $240 cost per trailer (or about $500 retail) would have made Fruehauf competitive in that market again.

Unfortunately, the people in TN were never able to get the hours down to what they were in IN. Not even close. We are not just talking the startup phase. The plant was open for about 10-12 years after it was built, with several different owners trying their hand to reverse the losses. Last I read, it was closed down, never having made a profit.


97 posted on 07/03/2005 4:59:31 PM PDT by jim_trent
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NEA & UAW ride again!


123 posted on 07/03/2005 5:52:06 PM PDT by ncountylee (Dead terrorists smell like victory)
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"In Alabama, trainers had to use "pictorials" to teach some illiterate workers how to use high-tech plant equipment."

Finally a believable answer for my Mercedes ML320, built in Alabama.


127 posted on 07/03/2005 5:54:26 PM PDT by truth_seeker
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