The fact that the Democrats are worse than the Republicans in California is no consulation to conservatives.
I am informed and knowledgeable of WHAT is the "conservative" principle(s). Again, I ask -- what do you propose for getting that message "more across"? Tom McClintock IS exactly such a conservative. I could go on the down list citing STAUNCH conservative candidates in CA who stood on conservative principle. Tell me, how many won the popular vote? I learn in this thread, it's because (paraphrasing here); that the GOP is socialist, won't give money to genuinely conservative candidates; therefore the conservative message isn't getting out. Meaning, the GOP does not wish "conservatism" to be heard.
As I've pointed out in other debates, Ralph Nader has the same argument with the Dems that you have with the GOP. And then there's Libertarians who also say they can't get "funding" for their candidates. Then there's McCain -- trying to get "non-traditional party" candidates 'HEARD" (ipso, funded) through legislations. A true conservative rejects such legislations, no?
What -- exactly do you propose for "true" conservatives to DO to overcome the "socialist GOP Party"?
How, I'm asking, are you going to lead either newer voters, or GOP so-called "loyalists" back into the fold of genuine conservatism?
Answer: Defend themselves against those who intend them harm.
Specifically, in the matter before us, turn Schwarzenegger out of public office as soon as possible. It is no surprise that Schwarzenegger's public policy has alienated the right. Neither is it a surprise that the MSM has attributed his descending public, political popularity to a union smear campaign when the impetuous behind his collapsing trust quotient originates on the right.
Question: How are you going to lead either newer voters, or GOP so-called "loyalists" back into the fold of genuine conservatism?
Answer: Government can't legislate morality and friends can't teach common sense.
I have no idea what defines genuine conservatism. My purpose in this discussion is not to expose Schwarzenegger, his public record over the past 7 years speaks for itself, but rather to make it more difficult for Republican partisans to spin the obvious.
Question: I could list STAUNCH conservative candidates in CA who stood on conservative principle. Tell me, how many won the popular vote?(implied state wide)
Answer: Most all (when supported by their party).
I realistically expect conservatives in California to face a substantial challenge with Rove in charge at the RNC flooding the state with illegal immigrants, the kids running the CRCCs in almost a blind panic and Wilson's gang of opportunists/entrepreneurs guiding their Trojan horse as he carries the pork to their larders.