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To: Carry_Okie
You know what? Yours has jogged my memory: I do recall seeing the "TomBot" rhubarbs. I thought it was vacuous. So it goes..

OTOH, Arnold's response to snivelling Dems "hiding behind their 13-year-old daughter's skirts" as "Girly Men", I thought was appropo. There was no reason for Nunez to bring his daughter into a "personal" defense of his own. I thought that was wayyyy low of him to do.

When FR moderators failed to quell the slings and arrows early in the recall campaign, there were no options left.

I don't have a good handle on the role of FR moderators. But what I've been wondering and suspecting for quite some time -- is this: For a group of posters claiming they wish limited government, freedom, and self-rule -- perhaps they (FR Moderators) are in hopes they'll see those espousing this credo -- behave accordingly -- and not need "forum" police to step in routinely when "civil dissent" or "cyber brawls" breakout.

There is no reason in a debate with fear.

Do you mean.. fear of being "name-called"? Or do you mean "hunted down" like NCPAC and Buckhead were?

93 posted on 07/04/2005 9:03:29 AM PDT by Alia
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To: Alia; FairOpinion
OTOH, Arnold's response to snivelling Dems "hiding behind their 13-year-old daughter's skirts" as "Girly Men", I thought was appropo.

It worked.

For a group of posters claiming they wish limited government, freedom, and self-rule -- perhaps they (FR Moderators) are in hopes they'll see those espousing this credo -- behave accordingly -- and not need "forum" police to step in routinely when "civil dissent" or "cyber brawls" breakout.

One would like to think so, but then one would expect such maturity to be expressed evenly. Considering what has happened to many who oppose illegal immigration, such is not the case.

There is no reason in a debate with fear.

Do you mean.. fear of being "name-called"? Or do you mean "hunted down" like NCPAC and Buckhead were?

Neither. The spectre of "former" Mechista, Cruz Bustamente, as Governor of California drove reason from the minds of many of Arnold's supporters. One can offer all the logical arguments one desires under such circumstances to no avail. The response was often shrill and always unproductive.

Even the claim that McClintock remaining in the race would split the vote to Bustamante proved to be false because he polled only 31%, for which there was never an apology. At the final point before the recall, McClintock had HIGHER favorable ratings than Arnold! He still does.

Here is the man for whom they voted:

“My relationship to power and authority is that I’m all for it,” he once explained. “People need somebody to watch over them.... Ninety-five percent of the people in the world need to be told what to do and how to behave.” -- Arnold Schwarzenegger, U.S. News & World Report, Nov 26, 1990

Arnold's supporters cite his signing of a unanimous bill rescinding SB60 as some sort of accomplishment, even though there was a referendum on driver licenses for illegals almost qualified for the ballot. Then Arnold turns around and starts negotiating driver licenses for illegals with One-Bill Gil Cedillo!

Schwarzenegger on Driver Licenses for illegal aliens during a January Interview with Univision:

We are right now in the middle of working very hard with Senator Cedillo. My staff and his staff. Everyone is working together. And we are absolutely positive that we will come up with a great bill. With his help and with my team's help, I think we will work it out. So there's, uh, really a good move forward.

Interviewer: How would you deal with more conservative members of the legislature...?

Schwarzenegger: Again, it's one of those things where we all have to get together and see that this is a good idea and this is the way to move forward. So, I am talking to my Republican friends all the time about it, and also to my Democratic friends. We will do it.

Washington Times, 3/02/04

"Our staffs have met, and they're working on this together,"

said Vincent Salido, spokesman for the Republican governor

STILL they credit Arnold for getting rid of driver licenses for illegals explaining that he's playing Cedillo for a fool! As if a governor with those ethics might not treat them the same way.

Nothing could explain support for a man with those beliefs and behavior like that other than fear. They were driven like frightened sheep and all they want now is cover; "Get over it." Well too bad, I'm a gonna blow that cover. The vote for Arnold was a successful campaign of fear by the California Republican Party that to do otherwise would elect a leftist separatista that I don't ever want to see work again. I believe they hired posters to work this site to precisely that end. I know for a fact that paid operatives do work this site. FairOpinion has never denied that charge directly, preferring to front load threads with unsubstantiated accolades and then cut and run whenever Arnold's record is posted. Nobody who saw that record of documented facts so regularly would keep up that kind of behavior without ulterior motive.

Arnold's supporters bought a chimera and got a pig in a poke. When you see articles like the one you cited in WND, what you are getting is a hopeful editorial stretching the truth trying to drum up support for a particular option.

94 posted on 07/04/2005 9:59:52 AM PDT by Carry_Okie (There are people in power who are truly evil.)
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