[spectre]

Tell me, elli..Do you think this coward had the guts to take on that whole family by himself? I'm having a problem with this.

sw

[the Deejay]

I'm having a problem with this.

Same here.

[MarMema]

Can we post excerpts from the Spokesman Review?

Sheriff's officials still are reluctant to release many details of the murder of Slade, his 40-year-old mother, Brenda Groene, and Brenda's 37-year-old boyfriend, Mark McKenzie. Details that only the murderer would know are more valuable to the investigation when only the detectives know them, he said.

Watson said his opinion – not necessarily backed by the evidence, he cautioned – is that the crime was premeditated because the killer or killers brought items to the scene to carry out the crime.

"It wasn't spontaneous," he said. Still, it doesn't fit any traditional crime scenes in his experience, he said.

"It was a highly emotional crime scene, a violent crime scene," he said. "Real violent crimes are usually driven by love, money or drugs."

But Groene and McKenzie didn't have a lot of money, nor did they appear to be heavily involved in drugs, he said. While the two adult victims did have methamphetamine and marijuana in their systems, according to the autopsy, Watson described them more as recreational users.

"This is what I would expect (from) a Colombia drug lord sending a message to a dealer," he said. "But these people didn't have big drug or money issues."

While the two grown Groene sons have had criminal convictions, and 18-year-old Jesse Groene is awaiting sentencing on a burglary charge, Watson described their involvement with law enforcement as "small time stuff, nothing to warrant this."

[elli1]

Tell me, elli..Do you think this coward had the guts to take on that whole family by himself? I'm having a problem with this.

I don't know. Just posted possibilities. We'll know soon.

[Ellesu]

I remember thinking BTK had help when he killed family of 4 or 5, can't remember. Turns out he held them at gunpoint, tied them all up, then killed them, so it is possible he killed them by himself.

The dates of the blog, murders, his no show in court on the 17th, murders happened on the night of the 16th, and reading his blog, seems he was escalating, desperate and he also talks about not wanting to go back to jail.

I don't know if he had made contact with these children or one of them before, and was found out, thus the reason he killed.(if he did it) Maybe he was buying drugs from them, I don't know his thinking. A lot of rage in those murders though.

He burned a child with cigarettes and held a gun to his head and raped him. He had access to a gun by his comments that his brother brought a gun to his home.

Yes, I think he is capable and I think it is possible he has killed before and gotten away with it.

How many years was he in prison? Did he keep in touch with any fellow prisoners and could they have helped?

We really do not know what he has done in his past except those offenses he was caught doing. Reported. It's also possible these kids ran from the home or were not there when murders happened, and he picked them up on the side of the road. I don't have any idea how/if he did it, but I think yes, he is capable.

Sex offenders often murder their vicitms, so killing an adult/adults is not that far removed.

Sometimes serial killers start out raping, then add killing and then go back to just raping and then killing again. Often they fit the profile of Duncan, nobody would suspect him, and he sure did travel and move a lot. Time will tell as investigation continues.

I have not followed this case closely, so I don't know what evidence they have from crime scene, etc. Upcoming press conference may provide more info.

[GVnana]

I'm thinking there's a collection of individuals who've crossed paths though jail, drugs, porn, pedophilia, the internet -- and there are several people involved when this is all done.