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Michelle Shocked back on a creative streak (SHOCKED DISREPECTS DYLAN BIG TIME !!!)
Scripps Howard News Service ^ | 20-JUN-05 | SCOTT MERVIS - Pittsburgh Post-Gazette

Posted on 07/01/2005 6:18:43 AM PDT by Chi-townChief

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To: r9etb
Blood on the Tracks was a pretty good albulm. My guess is she never heard of it. (it came out in '74)

Having never heard of her, I think she should be a bit more careful about how she treads around people a lot more successful than she.

21 posted on 07/01/2005 6:55:03 AM PDT by Nonstatist
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To: r9etb

A&R = Artist and Repertoire = talent scout


22 posted on 07/01/2005 6:55:36 AM PDT by durasell (Friends are so alarming, My lover's never charming...)
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To: theDentist
BOB DYLAN's Original Lyrics
23 posted on 07/01/2005 6:56:43 AM PDT by KDD (http://www.gardenofsong.com/midi/popgoes.mid)
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To: r9etb
You know this gal is a FLAMEING lefty.

Check out her 'American flag burka" on her web page. She also has photos with code pink.

surprised?....not me

24 posted on 07/01/2005 7:00:32 AM PDT by glasseye
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To: glasseye

Yeah, she's a flaming lefty. Be that as it may, her music is still far more interesting than the crap that gets airplay. I like her music.


25 posted on 07/01/2005 7:05:52 AM PDT by r9etb
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To: r9etb

Anyone who can say this with a straight face must be pretty funny --

I think we could have made it work without the alcoholism.


26 posted on 07/01/2005 7:07:30 AM PDT by durasell (Friends are so alarming, My lover's never charming...)
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To: 0scill8r

Dylan admitted that he was so stoned he doesn't know what "meaning" much of what he wrote has. Only Leftist loons try to get meaning from the dribble written by uneducated and constantly stoned musicians. Sometimes they try put out a political statement, (usually from a leftist point of view).
That's about it.


27 posted on 07/01/2005 7:12:56 AM PDT by Nathan Zachary
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To: Chi-townChief

OK. In the 60's he took a lot of speed and wrote a lot of nonsense. And he also wrote dozens of great songs.

In the 70's he also wrote dozens of great songs.

In the early and late 80's he also wrote dozens of great songs (though he had a bad patch in the middle 80's).

He didn't write much since then, but his last 2 albums, in 1997 and 2001, were very original and very good.

Dylan shares with Shakespeare the quality of inexhaustibility. Talent can recognize genius, and most of the pros grant Dylan the top place among contemporary songwriters. Some of them, though, are too jealous to evaluate him objectively.

How many great songs has Michelle Shocked written?


28 posted on 07/01/2005 7:25:07 AM PDT by VeritatisSplendor
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To: Chi-townChief

>>... I think he took a lot of speed and wrote a lot of nonsense... And because people were so confused by the times that were a-changing, they elevated his Dada into meaning...<<

Never did get Dylan, although I wasn't around at his, ahem, peak.

I couldn't help but read her statements about Dylan and think of the elevation of Kurt Cobain to the position of the "spokesperson of *his* generation". Although I do like a lot of Nirvana's music, to think of Kurt Cobain as the spokesperson of anything (except perhaps "This is Your Brain on Drugs" or maybe, more fittingly, "This is Your Brains on the Ceiling") is ridiculous.




Dylan:

Get sick, get well
Hang around an ink well
Ring bell, hard to tell
If anything is goin' to sell
Try hard, get barred
Get back, write Braille
Get jailed, jump bail Join the army, if you failed
Look out kid
You're gonna get hit
But users, cheaters
Six-time losers
Hang around the theaters
Girl by the whirlpool
Lookin' for a new fool
Don't follow leaders
Watch the parkin' meters.

Ah get born, keep warm
Short pants, romance, learn to dance
Get dressed, get blessed
Try to be a success
Please her, please him, buy gifts
Don't steal, don't lift
Twenty years of schoolin'
And they put you on the day shift
Look out kid
They keep it all hid
Better jump down a manhole
Light yourself a candle
Don't wear sandals
Try to avoid the scandals
Don't wanna be a bum
You better chew gum
The pump don't work
'Cause the vandals took the handles.

Cobain:

She eyes me like a pisces when I am weak
I've been locked inside your Heart-Shaped box for weeks
I've been drawn into your magnet tar pit trap
I wish I could eat your cancer when you turn back (Alt: ... when you turn black)

Meat-eating orchids forgive no one just yet
Cut myself on angel's hair and baby's breath
Broken hymen of your highness I'm left black
Throw down your umbilical noose so I can climb right back




That's so deep, man. Can't you hear what he's saying? Hey, pass it or eat it, man.



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29 posted on 07/01/2005 7:36:58 AM PDT by itsamelman (“Announcing your plans is a good way to hear God laugh.” -- Al Swearengen)
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To: VeritatisSplendor

All you Dylan fans must be deaf. Let me point out something:

He's a HORRIBLE singer. I mean HORRIBLE! He sings horribly! Can anyone say he is a good singer? Thats what dylan fans don't get. People dislike him because he is a horrible, horrible singer. I'm surprised Quincy Jones didn't shoot him when he sang his part in "We are the World".


30 posted on 07/01/2005 7:42:02 AM PDT by FreeManWhoCan
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To: FreeManWhoCan

Dylan's singing voice is a take off on traditional folk and blues singers.


31 posted on 07/01/2005 7:46:15 AM PDT by durasell (Friends are so alarming, My lover's never charming...)
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To: Nathan Zachary

OK, Nathan. You don't like or respect Dylan. No problem.

What CD's are in your car? in your home player? Who do you listen to?


32 posted on 07/01/2005 7:50:42 AM PDT by dmz
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To: dmz

He could play Dylan's Nashville Skyline and listen to Charlie Daniels on that album. The two have been friends for years...


33 posted on 07/01/2005 7:53:40 AM PDT by durasell (Friends are so alarming, My lover's never charming...)
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To: Chi-townChief

Just caught Michelle at Antone's here in Austin last Sunday evening. It was a great show as always. Carolyn Wonderland opened for her. If you haven't had a chance to hear Carolyn go to her website www.carolynwonderland.com several free downloads are available. She Rocks!!!!!


34 posted on 07/01/2005 8:07:35 AM PDT by BubbaBobTX (I wasn't born in Texas but I got here as fast as I could.)
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To: FreeManWhoCan

I agree that you hear many say what you have said. More often, though, as on this thread, the dislike for Dylan comes from his lyrics, not his voice.

Good singer? I wouldn't go so far. His voice and his words work well together for me. Music need not be "pretty" for me to like it. A good number of the Texas songwriters that Michelle seems to tout in the interview (not by name) also have difficult voices. Townes Van Zandt and Guy Clark spring immediately to mind.


35 posted on 07/01/2005 8:09:12 AM PDT by dmz
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