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Michelle Shocked back on a creative streak (SHOCKED DISREPECTS DYLAN BIG TIME !!!)
Scripps Howard News Service ^ | 20-JUN-05 | SCOTT MERVIS - Pittsburgh Post-Gazette

Posted on 07/01/2005 6:18:43 AM PDT by Chi-townChief

Free of record-label disputes and a troubled marriage, Michelle Shocked is back on a creative streak and ready to drop not one, not two, but three new records on her fans.

"Don't Ask, Don't Tell" is a folk-rock outing that chronicles her breakup with writer Bart Bull. The bio on her Web site calls it a "breakup epic in the grand tradition of Richard and Linda Thompson's 'Shoot out the Lights' and Bob Dylan's 'Blood on the Tracks' and Marvin Gaye's 'Here, My Dear.' "

"Mexican Standoff" touches on her Latin and Texas roots. And "Got No Strings" applies Western swing to songs from Disney films.

Anyone who's followed Shocked's career knows to expect these kinds of twists from the free-spirited singer-songwriter who debuted in 1986 with "Texas Campfire Songs," recorded on a Sony Walkman, built on that initial buzz two years later with the more finessed "Short Sharp Shocked," featuring her biggest song, "Anchorage," and then took a big band detour on "Captain Swing."

Now the East Texas-born singer is living in L.A. with a new love, and talking about her trilogy and her divorce. As for opinion on rock's most cherished songwriter, don't ask.

Q: How did you come to put out three albums at once?

A: Well, it might be the brave new world. I'm running my own label, and there's no one stopping me. I can do what I want.

Q: For "Don't Ask, Don't Tell," did you think, "I'm going to sit down and write a breakup album, like those classic ones"?

A: No, I don't like some of those. I don't like the bitterness, I don't like the acrimony.

Q: You don't like "Blood on the Tracks"?

A: You know, I'm not a Dylan fan. I'm sorry, I'm just not. It probably puts me in a tiny minority ...

Q: I've never heard a songwriter say that, but OK, we'll move on.

A: Forgive me. ... When it came time, I did want to chronicle the experience, but I wanted it to be based more on a sense of humor, a sense of wryness. Yeah, we're knuckleheads, we try to make it work, but the odds aren't in our favor.

Q: Did it take time to arrive at that attitude?

A: No, I think I went into the marriage with it. It was such a long shot. I'm neurotic; he's neurotic. The one thing I didn't count on that took us down was alcoholism. I think we could have made it work without the alcoholism.

Q: Earlier in your career, you tried to cross genres and met some resistance.

A: Earlier in my career, I outlined for the A&R man who signed me, I said, "I have a trilogy. I'm going to release three albums. They are designed to shine the light, give people information as to what my influences and inspirations are. I want to let people know where I'm coming from musically."

They couldn't be less interested. They heard the song "Anchorage," and they pretty much plugged me into an A&R formula, which is, "go as fast and far as you can on your first album, because it's all going to be downhill from there." In other words, they like to take a novelty song and just pump it beyond any reasonable measure, and you coast the rest of your career on that song. They weren't interested in a concept of me building my audience slowly based on a clear understanding in what my artistic direction was.

Q: Do you sense that your fan base can take these stylistic leaps with you as well?

A: They do it intuitively, more and more as time is on my side, and I'm able to issue my own material and tell the story more directly. The audiences have responded, and to some degree there was been a winnowing process. There are the few audience members who come to hear "Anchorage;" the rest have come to expect the unexpected. That is the delight of a Michelle Shocked performance.

Q: Just going back to something, I'm curious as to why you don't like Dylan.

A: It's most likely sour grapes, but that's not ... I think he took a lot of speed and wrote a lot of nonsense. And because people were so frightened, so confused by the times that were a-changing, they elevated his Dada into meaning, and he's been riding on the coattails of their interpretation ever since.

Q: Interesting point of view.

A: Not completely unique. I know a lot of songwriters from Texas, because we come from such a different tradition, we've all had to run that gauntlet where if you're a songwriter, Dylan is presumed to be the touchstone. I know from my own experience growing up in Texas, there were Texas songwriters that had different musical values than the ones Dylan espoused.

(Scott Mervis can be reached at smervis(at)post-gazette.com.)


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To: r9etb
Blood on the Tracks was a pretty good albulm. My guess is she never heard of it. (it came out in '74)

Having never heard of her, I think she should be a bit more careful about how she treads around people a lot more successful than she.

21 posted on 07/01/2005 6:55:03 AM PDT by Nonstatist
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To: r9etb

A&R = Artist and Repertoire = talent scout


22 posted on 07/01/2005 6:55:36 AM PDT by durasell (Friends are so alarming, My lover's never charming...)
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To: theDentist
BOB DYLAN's Original Lyrics
23 posted on 07/01/2005 6:56:43 AM PDT by KDD (http://www.gardenofsong.com/midi/popgoes.mid)
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To: r9etb
You know this gal is a FLAMEING lefty.

Check out her 'American flag burka" on her web page. She also has photos with code pink.

surprised?....not me

24 posted on 07/01/2005 7:00:32 AM PDT by glasseye
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To: glasseye

Yeah, she's a flaming lefty. Be that as it may, her music is still far more interesting than the crap that gets airplay. I like her music.


25 posted on 07/01/2005 7:05:52 AM PDT by r9etb
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To: r9etb

Anyone who can say this with a straight face must be pretty funny --

I think we could have made it work without the alcoholism.


26 posted on 07/01/2005 7:07:30 AM PDT by durasell (Friends are so alarming, My lover's never charming...)
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To: 0scill8r

Dylan admitted that he was so stoned he doesn't know what "meaning" much of what he wrote has. Only Leftist loons try to get meaning from the dribble written by uneducated and constantly stoned musicians. Sometimes they try put out a political statement, (usually from a leftist point of view).
That's about it.


27 posted on 07/01/2005 7:12:56 AM PDT by Nathan Zachary
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To: Chi-townChief

OK. In the 60's he took a lot of speed and wrote a lot of nonsense. And he also wrote dozens of great songs.

In the 70's he also wrote dozens of great songs.

In the early and late 80's he also wrote dozens of great songs (though he had a bad patch in the middle 80's).

He didn't write much since then, but his last 2 albums, in 1997 and 2001, were very original and very good.

Dylan shares with Shakespeare the quality of inexhaustibility. Talent can recognize genius, and most of the pros grant Dylan the top place among contemporary songwriters. Some of them, though, are too jealous to evaluate him objectively.

How many great songs has Michelle Shocked written?


28 posted on 07/01/2005 7:25:07 AM PDT by VeritatisSplendor
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To: Chi-townChief

>>... I think he took a lot of speed and wrote a lot of nonsense... And because people were so confused by the times that were a-changing, they elevated his Dada into meaning...<<

Never did get Dylan, although I wasn't around at his, ahem, peak.

I couldn't help but read her statements about Dylan and think of the elevation of Kurt Cobain to the position of the "spokesperson of *his* generation". Although I do like a lot of Nirvana's music, to think of Kurt Cobain as the spokesperson of anything (except perhaps "This is Your Brain on Drugs" or maybe, more fittingly, "This is Your Brains on the Ceiling") is ridiculous.




Dylan:

Get sick, get well
Hang around an ink well
Ring bell, hard to tell
If anything is goin' to sell
Try hard, get barred
Get back, write Braille
Get jailed, jump bail Join the army, if you failed
Look out kid
You're gonna get hit
But users, cheaters
Six-time losers
Hang around the theaters
Girl by the whirlpool
Lookin' for a new fool
Don't follow leaders
Watch the parkin' meters.

Ah get born, keep warm
Short pants, romance, learn to dance
Get dressed, get blessed
Try to be a success
Please her, please him, buy gifts
Don't steal, don't lift
Twenty years of schoolin'
And they put you on the day shift
Look out kid
They keep it all hid
Better jump down a manhole
Light yourself a candle
Don't wear sandals
Try to avoid the scandals
Don't wanna be a bum
You better chew gum
The pump don't work
'Cause the vandals took the handles.

Cobain:

She eyes me like a pisces when I am weak
I've been locked inside your Heart-Shaped box for weeks
I've been drawn into your magnet tar pit trap
I wish I could eat your cancer when you turn back (Alt: ... when you turn black)

Meat-eating orchids forgive no one just yet
Cut myself on angel's hair and baby's breath
Broken hymen of your highness I'm left black
Throw down your umbilical noose so I can climb right back




That's so deep, man. Can't you hear what he's saying? Hey, pass it or eat it, man.



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29 posted on 07/01/2005 7:36:58 AM PDT by itsamelman (“Announcing your plans is a good way to hear God laugh.” -- Al Swearengen)
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To: VeritatisSplendor

All you Dylan fans must be deaf. Let me point out something:

He's a HORRIBLE singer. I mean HORRIBLE! He sings horribly! Can anyone say he is a good singer? Thats what dylan fans don't get. People dislike him because he is a horrible, horrible singer. I'm surprised Quincy Jones didn't shoot him when he sang his part in "We are the World".


30 posted on 07/01/2005 7:42:02 AM PDT by FreeManWhoCan
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To: FreeManWhoCan

Dylan's singing voice is a take off on traditional folk and blues singers.


31 posted on 07/01/2005 7:46:15 AM PDT by durasell (Friends are so alarming, My lover's never charming...)
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To: Nathan Zachary

OK, Nathan. You don't like or respect Dylan. No problem.

What CD's are in your car? in your home player? Who do you listen to?


32 posted on 07/01/2005 7:50:42 AM PDT by dmz
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To: dmz

He could play Dylan's Nashville Skyline and listen to Charlie Daniels on that album. The two have been friends for years...


33 posted on 07/01/2005 7:53:40 AM PDT by durasell (Friends are so alarming, My lover's never charming...)
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To: Chi-townChief

Just caught Michelle at Antone's here in Austin last Sunday evening. It was a great show as always. Carolyn Wonderland opened for her. If you haven't had a chance to hear Carolyn go to her website www.carolynwonderland.com several free downloads are available. She Rocks!!!!!


34 posted on 07/01/2005 8:07:35 AM PDT by BubbaBobTX (I wasn't born in Texas but I got here as fast as I could.)
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To: FreeManWhoCan

I agree that you hear many say what you have said. More often, though, as on this thread, the dislike for Dylan comes from his lyrics, not his voice.

Good singer? I wouldn't go so far. His voice and his words work well together for me. Music need not be "pretty" for me to like it. A good number of the Texas songwriters that Michelle seems to tout in the interview (not by name) also have difficult voices. Townes Van Zandt and Guy Clark spring immediately to mind.


35 posted on 07/01/2005 8:09:12 AM PDT by dmz
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