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Census lists fastest-growing cities (San Francisco, Boston losing population)
CNN ^ | June 30, 2005

Posted on 06/30/2005 8:58:59 AM PDT by Skylab

Census lists fastest-growing cities

Thursday, June 30, 2005; Posted: 10:18 a.m. EDT (14:18 GMT)

WASHINGTON (AP) -- Consider a move to Gilbert, Arizona, if you're looking to trade in that two-bedroom home for four bedrooms and a pool in the back yard.

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"People come here because there are good jobs, it's pretty affordable and it offers lots for the families, too," she said.

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The numbers show new residents flocking to midsize cities in Florida, Arizona, Nevada and California. Hurt by skyrocketing housing prices, people are leaving San Francisco, Boston and other large cities in droves.

San Francisco and Boston found themselves among the cities losing the most people between April 2000 and July 2004. Boston, for example, shed more than 19,000 people, or 3.4 percent of its population, while San Francisco lost 32,000, or 4.2 percent.

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To: Skylab

I spoke with someone who told of San Francisco's "price control" efforts - a controlled condo in a building full of $600,000 condos can only be sold for $300,000, and cannot be resold for more than $300,000 for about 30-40 years.

It isn't hard to figure out how this effects the market and the construction of new housing.


21 posted on 06/30/2005 9:19:00 AM PDT by mvpel (Michael Pelletier)
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To: Skylab
More married heterosexuals with families will get you the desired result. Everything else is all a social experiment and total failure if I may add!!
22 posted on 06/30/2005 9:21:16 AM PDT by bubman
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To: ProudVet77
Maybe this is the way to get rid of Barney.

Sadly The ol Frankmeister is the One in the Mass congressional contingent that makes the most sense. Not that what he says is sensible.

23 posted on 06/30/2005 9:25:19 AM PDT by Cowman (Just when you hit the bottom of the stupid hole you notice the guy next to you is digging)
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To: justshutupandtakeit

Anyone who doesn't leave Joliet or Chicago needs to have their head examined.


24 posted on 06/30/2005 9:26:01 AM PDT by bkepley
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To: Southack

When you say cities, make a distinction between San Francisco and well Jacksonville.

There are plenty of cities in this country that are not liberal hellholes, I live in one.


25 posted on 06/30/2005 9:29:49 AM PDT by AzaleaCity5691 (The enemy lies in the heart of Gadsden)
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To: Skylab
San Francisco is already the 4th or 5th largest city in CA.
26 posted on 06/30/2005 9:31:01 AM PDT by Mike Darancette (Mesocons for Rice '08)
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To: justshutupandtakeit

I can't blame them at all. Many people "vote" on where to live with their feet and their pocketbooks. The schools, as they are, in Joliet are good, for starters - certainly better than the public school offerings in the city of Chicago. And there's always Joliet Catholic for those who want a private (high school) option.


27 posted on 06/30/2005 9:31:04 AM PDT by NotJustAnotherPrettyFace
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To: Blood of Tyrants
And they are so stupid as to want to make their new home like the old one and not realize that it was THEIR politics that screwed up the states they came from

Which is why we need a Minuteman Project for counties. If you live in a red county that borders a blue one you should be out on the border looking for pink Volvos with "Celebrate Perversity" bumper stickers. Send them back into the filth from whence they came until they learn the error of their political beliefs.

If we had done this fifty years ago we could have saved New England.

Die Hippies Die!

28 posted on 06/30/2005 9:33:55 AM PDT by Cowman (Just when you hit the bottom of the stupid hole you notice the guy next to you is digging)
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To: Skylab
I suppose it has nothing to do with both cities embracing the homosexuals????/ (Nooooo!)
29 posted on 06/30/2005 9:42:18 AM PDT by SweetCaroline (Thank You GOD for watching over me.)
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To: cotton1706

On our way to losing another in 2010. I hope it's Fast Ed Markey.


30 posted on 06/30/2005 9:44:46 AM PDT by massgopguy (massgopguy)
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To: the invisib1e hand

Boston a homo capital?


31 posted on 06/30/2005 9:47:57 AM PDT by brooklyn dave (Bring Down the Mullahcracy in Iran)
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To: Skylab; All
Maybe the general population of those 2 cities SF, and Boston, have been terminally emotionally and financially 'fagged out'?
32 posted on 06/30/2005 9:50:33 AM PDT by RSmithOpt (Liberalism: Highway to Hell)
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To: Skylab
New York is GROWING, baby! Take that Boston and San Fransicko!

And no eminent domain in Manhattan. Safest real estate value in the nation.

33 posted on 06/30/2005 9:53:03 AM PDT by montag813
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To: ProudVet77; cotton1706

Next time we are dead certain to lose one of our ten illustrious Congressmen and one of our electoral votes.

It will probably be someone from the western half of the state. The eastern half is still doing well and the Boston pols look after their own. There's enough clout in Brookline and Newton to guarantee Barney Frank a district.


34 posted on 06/30/2005 9:53:59 AM PDT by HostileTerritory
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To: massgopguy

I could see Ed Markey's district getting carved up. Only if he decides to retire on his own, though.


35 posted on 06/30/2005 9:55:29 AM PDT by HostileTerritory
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To: bkepley

Chicago has everything anyone would want. Fantastic food, great culture, great educational institutions. In short, everything which makes civilization civilization.

Of course, you do need to know your way around but for those who do it is a great place to live. Those who don't might have some problems.


36 posted on 06/30/2005 9:55:52 AM PDT by justshutupandtakeit (Public Enemy #1, the RATmedia.)
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To: Skylab
Peter Ragone, a spokesman for San Francisco Mayor Gavin Newsom, said the administration recognizes the problem and has begun a number of affordable housing initiatives, such as redevelopment projects aimed at producing more moderately priced homes.

Assuming you agree with redevelopment authority (big assumption!), it is laughable that the SF redevelopment is being sold as affordable housing projects... the most affordable areas in the city are exactly the areas targeted for redevelopment:

SF Home prices by 'district':
http://blackstone-sanfrancisco.com/198.html

SF redevelopment agancy project map:
http://sfgov.org/images/sfra/redevelopmentareas.jpg

seems to be a one-to-one relationship with the most affordable existing housing and the targeted areas... exactly how is replacing run down homes in the poorest areas with a new stadium, shopping complex and higher density luxury condos going to help 'affordable housing'?
37 posted on 06/30/2005 9:57:10 AM PDT by leakinInTheBlueSea
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To: massgopguy

An interesting wrinkle: 2012 is when a Senate seat should open up because Ted Kennedy will be 80 years old and have served 50 years in the Senate.


38 posted on 06/30/2005 9:57:15 AM PDT by HostileTerritory
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To: AzaleaCity5691

Yes...most Texas cities (save Austin) for example.

Cincinnati, Ohio ain't bad. Akron (where I live) however, is quite liberal as is Cleveland, Columbus, Toledo, and Dayton. Youngstown too.


39 posted on 06/30/2005 10:00:28 AM PDT by RockinRight (Conservatism is common sense, liberalism is just senseless.)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

"...they are so stupid as to want to make their new home like the old one..."

A lot of southern Californians have moved up here to western Washington. So many times I've heard, "How do you people get by up here without a state income tax? You really NEED an income tax."
Thanks for playing. Now, go home!


40 posted on 06/30/2005 10:02:03 AM PDT by beelzepug (powder, patch, ball...)
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