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To: Straight Vermonter

He is correct... anything other than that is idolatry. YOu cannot expect the King of Kings to leave His throne in heaven to manefest himself into a manmade wafer/loaf of bread to be consumed by humans...That is cannibalism and symbolic of human sacrifice which is condemned by God. So, why would God go against himself. ".. A kingdom divided shall not stand..."


213 posted on 06/27/2005 3:31:28 PM PDT by Zavien Doombringer (Have you gotten your Viking Kittie Patch today? http://www.visualops.com/patch.html)
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To: Zavien Doombringer
YOu cannot expect the King of Kings to leave His throne in heaven to manefest himself into a manmade wafer/loaf of bread to be consumed by humans

Except that he does many many times a day. This is the only teaching of Christ that actually caused him to lose disciples. Your claims of cannibalism is the same claim the Roman brought against the early Church. It is unfortunate that after so much time many Christians have chosen to side with the pagan Romans rather than the Church.

For my flesh is true food, and my blood is true drink.

222 posted on 06/27/2005 3:39:27 PM PDT by Straight Vermonter (John 6: 51-58)
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To: Zavien Doombringer

John 6. Get back to me.


275 posted on 06/27/2005 5:59:11 PM PDT by AliVeritas (Ignorance is a condition. Stupidity is a strategy.)
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To: Zavien Doombringer
YOu cannot expect the King of Kings to leave His throne in heaven to manefest himself into a manmade wafer/loaf of bread to be consumed by humans...That is cannibalism and symbolic of human sacrifice which is condemned by God. So, why would God go against himself.

Why not? God did the preposterous act of taking human flesh, being born, allowing Himself to be crucified and die. That is also human sacrifice, in this case of the God-Man.

The Eucharistic doctrines of the Catholic Church are not more preposterous than the Incarnation itself. If you cannot believe in the Real Presence, its difficult to see how you can truly believe God became man.

340 posted on 06/27/2005 11:10:05 PM PDT by Hermann the Cherusker
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To: Zavien Doombringer; Straight Vermonter; Hermann the Cherusker
That is cannibalism and symbolic of human sacrifice

ZD, I hate to reiterate a point that was better made by Hermann the Cherusker, but have you read the Gospels?

What was the crucifixion other than a human sacrifice?

538 posted on 06/28/2005 10:32:23 AM PDT by wideawake (God bless our brave troops and their Commander-in-Chief)
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To: Zavien Doombringer
YOu cannot expect the King of Kings to leave His throne in heaven to manefest himself into a manmade wafer/loaf of bread to be consumed by humans...That is cannibalism and symbolic of human sacrifice which is condemned by God. So, why would God go against himself. ".. A kingdom divided shall not stand..."

God sees all of eternity like a line stretched out within his complete line of vision. At this moment, He is witnessing every moment in time, including the sacrifice on Calvary which took place 2000 years ago from our finite point of view. To that end, He is also witnessing the resurrection. Holy Eucharist is not the re-sacrificing of Christ on Earth. It is the method by which Jesus faicilitates our participation in the eternal sacrifice being offered in heaven at this very moment. Unless that is grasped, it's understandable that you would think that this is some sort of "cannibalistic" ritual. It's not.

667 posted on 06/28/2005 1:01:13 PM PDT by Rutles4Ever
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