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Senate Bill Would Grant FBI Unlimited Access To Gun Sales Records
Gun Owners of America ^ | June 23, 2005 | NA

Posted on 06/27/2005 9:52:14 AM PDT by neverdem

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To: Dead Corpse

I asked once. It's company policy. A CYA manuever. It's also why I no longer buy my ammo there

Hmmmmm? I live in Idaho, no such practice here. Sounds like a state to state issue.


41 posted on 06/27/2005 11:35:09 AM PDT by Allosaurs_r_us (for a fee........I'm happy to be........Your BACKDOOR MAN!....Dirty Deeds Done Dirt Cheap!)
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To: blam

I'll never give up my guns. Any law that says I must is illegal.

I do not own a single gun that can be traced back to me. Have always had that practice, ever since they started requiring the so called background check. It doesn't take rocket science to get around their record keeping. The criminals do it all the time.


42 posted on 06/27/2005 11:40:16 AM PDT by Allosaurs_r_us (for a fee........I'm happy to be........Your BACKDOOR MAN!....Dirty Deeds Done Dirt Cheap!)
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To: neverdem
Not to worry.

The Supreme Court would never allow this.







(rolling eyes)

43 posted on 06/27/2005 11:41:45 AM PDT by linkinpunk
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To: neverdem

Where is the NRA on this?


44 posted on 06/27/2005 11:45:19 AM PDT by mr_hammer (I call them as I see them!)
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To: Allosaurs_r_us

I live in Texas. Plenty of other places to buy ammo. That, and I'm getting in to reloading so it'll be even cheaper. ;-)


45 posted on 06/27/2005 11:46:32 AM PDT by Dead Corpse (Never underestimate the will of the downtrodden to lie flatter.)
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To: superiorslots

Roberts has always had RINO tendencies...


46 posted on 06/27/2005 12:02:00 PM PDT by RockinRight (Conservatism is common sense, liberalism is just senseless.)
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To: Hank Rearden
But you'll all vote for them again next time, won't you?
 
As opposed to what? What would you libertarians have us do? Have you people had a candidate put forth that can take on a DemonRat? If so when? You are not even coming close. I agree with much of what you have to say, but I have to protect me and mine from worse case scenarios.
 
According to your way of thinking I guess we should all just go belly up and not even bother. How do you expect to get anything done at all? Should we elect DumbocRats merely because we don't like a repubs single issue or pet pork project? How are you helping the situation by sitting around with a pessimistic attitude, pointing out the worst of everything imaginable with no solution put forth that is even remotely doable?
 
Not my idea of citizen involvement in the political process.
 
We ended up with Slick Willy because of third party shenanigans. Until there is a viable libertarian candidate accepted by the majority we have to elect the candidate closer to our beliefs. I certainly prefer republican ideals as compared to liberal, left wing, socialist puke.

47 posted on 06/27/2005 12:02:42 PM PDT by Allosaurs_r_us (for a fee........I'm happy to be........Your BACKDOOR MAN!....Dirty Deeds Done Dirt Cheap!)
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To: Allosaurs_r_us
So you'd prefer a Professional Politician instead of someone with a real interest in protecting your Rights.

Duly noted.

48 posted on 06/27/2005 12:04:05 PM PDT by Dead Corpse (Never underestimate the will of the downtrodden to lie flatter.)
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To: neverdem
Unintended Consequences
49 posted on 06/27/2005 12:05:31 PM PDT by lakeman (when a marine kills the only thing he feels is the recoil of his rifle)
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To: cryptical

I trust the government to always do the right thing.


50 posted on 06/27/2005 12:14:27 PM PDT by Eagle Eye (Some day we may have to choose whether we'll be a criminal or a collaborator.)
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To: Allosaurs_r_us
We ended up with Slick Willy because of third party shenanigans

WRONG-O!!

We ended up with Clinton because the Republican Party ran a weak candidate that couldn't EARN enough votes.

If a party runs a strong candidate it won't matter how many 'third parties' there are.

51 posted on 06/27/2005 12:17:34 PM PDT by Eagle Eye (Some day we may have to choose whether we'll be a criminal or a collaborator.)
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To: Roccus

That must be a policy at WV Wal Marts, because I've bought ammo there for years--latest purchase just a few weeks ago, in fact--and they've never scanned my drivers license, though they have occasionally asked to see it to check my age.


52 posted on 06/27/2005 12:21:07 PM PDT by A Jovial Cad ("A man's character is his fate." - Heraclitus)
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To: Hank Rearden
Gee, a Republican screwing individual liberties and freedom?

I'm shocked.

But you'll all vote for them again next time, won't you?

I'm in NY, so I almost invariably vote on the line of the Conservative Party, the party where Rove gave his speech, and the dems went apoplectic.

53 posted on 06/27/2005 12:21:54 PM PDT by neverdem (May you be in heaven a half hour before the devil knows that you're dead.)
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To: neverdem; kharaku

Who are we kidding? You can wipe your a** with the Constitution, because it means nothing next to the War on Whatever We Want to Control Because It's for the Children Against the Terrorists.

The government is going after one "fruitloop" at a time, until there's no one who will dare to raise arms against them. "Reasonable" people aren't going to take arms against the government, we can't get the b***ards voted out because another will take their place, and you can't be sure that what they say to get elected has a damn thing to do with what they do when they get to Washington.

Kharaku pointed out that they're taking everything away--and I understand his use of hyperbole, but I'm not so sure it's hyperbole. They can take your house. They already take your money before you see it. And now, spying on you and counting your guns is supposed to be something called The PATRIOT Act?

Maybe a new Independence Day is called for. Since even DUers can see that the eminent domain is a nightmare waiting to happen, maybe this is the time for an economic strike--no one works for a day, no one spends money for a couple of days. Would that attract attention? Will the PTB listen then?

I don't know what there is to do--voting is no guarantee, and I really don't see a time when we're going to form a militia--not that we'll have guns to fight with, or the right to assemble to even discuss it.

It can only get worse if we don't take some kind of action.


54 posted on 06/27/2005 12:22:40 PM PDT by SoVaDPJ
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To: neverdem

The horse has already left the barn. I, a peaceful citizen with no criminal record, cannot legally buy a gun without the government's consent. Even if I could, I could not transport it with me either by hand or in a vehicle without the consent of various state governments, depending on where I travel.

Registration here is like recording the name of the deceased after he's already buried.


55 posted on 06/27/2005 12:25:54 PM PDT by thoughtomator (The U.S. Constitution poses no serious threat to our form of government)
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To: Grut

Writing an essay doesn't take growing any gonads. Halting the abuses of the BAT-FE'ers would be a modest, first step in actually growing gonads.


56 posted on 06/27/2005 12:27:23 PM PDT by coloradan (Hence, etc.)
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To: SoVaDPJ
Is it not evident that we are left wholly dependent on the wisdom and virtue of the men who shall from time to time be the members of Congress? And who shall be able to say seven years hence, the members of Congress will be wise and good men, or of the contrary character?

-Antifederalist No. 46 "WHERE THEN IS THE RESTRAINT?"

As for the diminishing BoR, this is what it was supposed to do......

57 posted on 06/27/2005 12:27:57 PM PDT by Dead Corpse (Never underestimate the will of the downtrodden to lie flatter.)
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To: Dead Corpse
Pay particular attention to this part...

It is therefore not only necessarily implied thereby, but positively expressed, that the different State Constitutions are repealed and entirely done away, so far as they are inconsistent with this, with the laws which shall be made in pursuance thereof, or with treaties made, or which shall be made, under the authority of the United States. Of what avail will the Constitutions of the respective States be to preserve the rights of its citizens? Should they be pled, the answer would be, the Constitution of the United States, and the laws made in pursuance thereof, is the supreme law, and all legislatures and judicial officers, whether of the General or State governments, are bound by oath to support it. No privilege, reserved by the bills of rights, or secured by the State governments, can limit the power granted by this, or restrain any laws made in pursuance of it. It stands, therefore, on its own bottom, and must receive a construction by itself, without any reference to any other. And hence it was of the highest importance, that the most precise and express declarations and reservations of rights should have been made.

Especially all you "incorperation" nit wits.

58 posted on 06/27/2005 12:30:10 PM PDT by Dead Corpse (Never underestimate the will of the downtrodden to lie flatter.)
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To: Roccus

CTA - covering their ass


59 posted on 06/27/2005 12:30:13 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist ©®)
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To: SoVaDPJ

A lot of people thought Putin was crazy to dare call the US on exactly how democractic we are when the world started grumbling about rights in Russia. Fact is he's just been following the US' lead in this kind of thing. The minute the US used terrorism as an excuse to expand rights of law enforcement having nothing to do with terrorism Putin chimed in with eliminating free election of governors, and enhancing the government's support of the Russian church at the expense of protestants and Islam.


60 posted on 06/27/2005 12:33:30 PM PDT by kharaku (G3)
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