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To: BIRDS

Southeast Asia and Mexico I can believe. Europe... I thought everyone there was more sophisticated than us hick Americans!

End users are a definite problem. They think security is IT's responsibility. Sorry, guys, but IT can't prevent you from opening that spam email with the data thief worm in it.

On a side note: I find Kaspersky AV and NOD32 to be far superior to Norton's products. Norton's home stuff is just terrible, and the way it integrates itself into a system should classify it as low-level malware. Norton Corporate is better, but I'd still rather go with Kaspersky.

I wonder how much of this crap would go away if companies used Macs for workstations.


12 posted on 06/25/2005 10:52:39 PM PDT by Terpfen (New Democrat Party motto: les enfant terribles)
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To: Terpfen

I completely agree about Kaspersky. I didn't mention it earlier because it's not something the general user considers (but I do and it is about the best antiviral available, in my view). Most people can go find Norton and/or McAfee, though. Either of those last two are better than relying on the freebie suite softwares that ISPs are starting to offer *for, hey, security!*. It's disappointing how many users I read who say that they use those and those only "because they're free" and because they assume their ISP is looking out for them. Hardly...

I mean, try asking your ISP to replace your hardrive when it's ruined by a worm.

Meaning, people who rely on what their ISPs offer for security are really either lazy or very dim.


17 posted on 06/25/2005 11:44:51 PM PDT by BIRDS
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To: Terpfen

I completely agree about Kaspersky. I didn't mention it earlier because it's not something the general user considers (but I do and it is about the best antiviral available, in my view). Most people can go find Norton and/or McAfee, though. Either of those last two are better than relying on the freebie suite softwares that ISPs are starting to offer *for, hey, security!*. It's disappointing how many users I read who say that they use those and those only "because they're free" and because they assume their ISP is looking out for them. Hardly...

I mean, try asking your ISP to replace your hardrive when it's ruined by a worm.

Meaning, people who rely on what their ISPs offer for security are really either lazy or very dim.


18 posted on 06/25/2005 11:45:11 PM PDT by BIRDS
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To: Terpfen

Yeah, and Norton Professional, which includes the full array of features/programs. I've used that to good success but far prefer Kaspersky for reliability. But, Norton Professional does a great (enough) job for most users, if they use malware programs, also.


19 posted on 06/25/2005 11:46:57 PM PDT by BIRDS
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