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DAD SHRIEKS AT GRISLY FIND
New York Post ^ | June 25, 2005 | C. J. Sullivan

Posted on 06/25/2005 4:18:48 AM PDT by kcvl

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To: bill1952

The other day, Fox news was running this story with a video clip: female officer walked around from the front of a car to the back of the car, casually looked underneath and walked away. It didn't show her opening or looking inside the car, no less the trunk.


41 posted on 06/25/2005 4:59:09 AM PDT by two23
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To: bill1952

The car was searched, exterior, by bloodhound dogs, if the boys had been there, they would have picked up the scent.


42 posted on 06/25/2005 4:59:50 AM PDT by buffyt ("If men are so wicked with religion, what would they be if without it?" Ben Franklin)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

With helicopters buzzing overhead, hundreds of people - many with children in their arms - converged on the neighborhood. Yellow crime-scene tape kept them, and reporters, from getting too close to where the bodies were found.

Some onlookers wept. Others simply watched, stunned, heads shaking in disbelief.

On River Avenue, several women held onto a wrought-iron fence, sobbing uncontrollably as they peered into the backyard of Anibal Cruz, 11, who went missing Wednesday afternoon with his friends Daniel Agosto, 6, and Jesstin Pagan, 5.

"I feel guilty because I couldn't do anything else to make this not to turn out this way," said Magdalena Medina of Sicklerville.

Medina said as soon she heard on the news about the three missing boys, she jumped in her car and drove to Cramer Hill to join the search.

"I felt that my responsibility was to be here helping all the others go through those abandoned houses, Dumpsters, bushes and knock door by door," said Medina.

"It's shocking," said Liz Alvarado, a Cramer Hill resident who helped the effort by handing out fliers along River Avenue.

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Around the corner, on Beideman Avenue, Derrick Lofton said he watched as David Agosto opened the trunk of a Toyota Camry, only to see the bodies of his son and his son's playmates.

"My spine sort of collapsed when I saw it," said Lofton, 38.

A Pennsauken native whose family lives in Camden, Lofton said he saw authorities check the car on Thursday and Friday morning.

"They just didn't check the trunk," he said.

Lofton's 4-year-old daughter Deiana was with him at the time.

"I have to stay closer to my daughter," he said. "I wish I didn't see it."


43 posted on 06/25/2005 5:00:00 AM PDT by kcvl
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To: areafiftyone

They are searching for someone named Angel Martiniz in the case.


44 posted on 06/25/2005 5:00:35 AM PDT by buffyt ("If men are so wicked with religion, what would they be if without it?" Ben Franklin)
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To: two23

And this is paid for professionalism.


45 posted on 06/25/2005 5:01:39 AM PDT by bill1952 ("All that we do is done with an eye towards something else.")
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To: HiTech RedNeck

Cops and neighbors have been swarming that neighborhood for 3 days.

How could somebody sneak three boys into the trunk of a car without getting noticed?


46 posted on 06/25/2005 5:02:56 AM PDT by linkinpunk
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To: kcvl

Here is what my local news is reporting .. there is a video of the father's reaction right after he found the boys

Sad

http://www.nbc10.com/news/4642218/detail.html


47 posted on 06/25/2005 5:03:58 AM PDT by Mo1 (Democrats Sold Out America ... just to regain power)
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To: SkyPilot
The Police did all they could to find these boys.

No, they did not. They did not call in Search and Rescue teams. Police are not trained to do this. The outcome proves it.

48 posted on 06/25/2005 5:04:30 AM PDT by Snowy
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To: Judge Roy

I was told last night that this model of car has a trunk release inside the drivers door..if the car was unlocked...it's a possibility that oe of the boys kew this..


49 posted on 06/25/2005 5:04:41 AM PDT by mystery-ak (*Im sorry if my words offended anyone*.......Dickism)
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To: areafiftyone
I think these kids were killed somewhere else and put in the trunk at the very end.

I do too.

50 posted on 06/25/2005 5:05:09 AM PDT by Alia
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To: oceanview; mhking

I'm going to be sick.
I looks like yes, every time a child is missing, there is foul play.
However, I don't believe they were there the whole time.
There were, indeed, placed there.


51 posted on 06/25/2005 5:05:28 AM PDT by mabelkitty (Lurk forever, but once you post, your newbness shines like a new pair of shoes.)
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To: Snowy

If they brought a "drug dog" to try to find the kids, someone should get ousted.


52 posted on 06/25/2005 5:08:12 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (No wonder the Southern Baptist Church threw Greer out: Only one god per church! [Ann Coulter])
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To: buffyt

Which of these is close to Camden, NJ?


Atlantic City, NJ 08401

Belleville, NJ 07109


http://tinyurl.com/7oj2w


53 posted on 06/25/2005 5:08:38 AM PDT by kcvl
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To: Judge Roy
Well just who has the key to this cars trunk.

My first thought last night, was that perhaps the car had an inside switch for openning the trunk (like, located in the glove box). But they are saying the car had been sitting for 3 months, I have to wonder, if there where such a switch, would this model require a working battery for the juice to operate it. Maybe someone knows a bit about this make and model of car?

54 posted on 06/25/2005 5:08:49 AM PDT by LRS
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To: buffyt
Maybe. I've worked with hunting dogs and they are by no means 100%.

They are used to follow a scent, pursue leads or, possibly, to establish probable cause.

Certainly not to replace normal investigative methodology.

Or common sense. "Hey! There is a locked trunk. Open it and see."
55 posted on 06/25/2005 5:09:02 AM PDT by bill1952 ("All that we do is done with an eye towards something else.")
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To: bill1952

Maybe FoxNews will take a look at their file footage, show it again and ask some questions.


56 posted on 06/25/2005 5:09:50 AM PDT by two23
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To: Mo1

Shameful too, doesn't the tabloid mentality know any shame at all?


57 posted on 06/25/2005 5:09:52 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (No wonder the Southern Baptist Church threw Greer out: Only one god per church! [Ann Coulter])
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To: eccentric
yeah, but wouldn't they SCREAM? i mean, an 11 year old?

had to be murder with a plastic bag over his head.

58 posted on 06/25/2005 5:09:57 AM PDT by wildwood
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To: HiTech RedNeck
If they brought a "drug dog" to try to find the kids, someone should get ousted.

You'll never hear about it if they did. What most people don't realize is there are no standards for search dogs. Anyone can slap a vest on a dog and call it a search dog. We demand a lot from our dogs. We have two tests they must pass, and they also test the handler.

59 posted on 06/25/2005 5:11:01 AM PDT by Snowy
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To: SkyPilot

Sounds like the Jersey papers are wrong in their speculation and don't have the facts. How nice of them to smear one of the innocent victims.

It sounds drug-related for sure. I'm also wondering how they knew to look for Angel Martinez, and whether or not the father was TOLD to go look in the trunk of the car. That's what it sounds like to me.


60 posted on 06/25/2005 5:11:51 AM PDT by mabelkitty (Lurk forever, but once you post, your newbness shines like a new pair of shoes.)
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