We need to stop using the words 'theft' and 'facist' in connection with this case and provide an educated response. As long as we marginalize and only tell half the truth, we will lose even more because it is a terrible display of ignorance.
First, just as in eminent domain cases, the parties are PAID for the property. So implying that someone who has worked and slaved for a home is just forced to hand it over wihtout compensation is untrue.
Again, I do not say that this type of taking is right or just. BUT, we all pay property taxes, so who owns your property now? IF you do not pay your property taxes, your land is taken by a private investor at auction.
We have always been subject to a possible eminent domain, so who owns your property?
We have all been renting from the government for a long time. It is a shame we have not raised a hue and cry at that with a united front.
What we need to do is stop reacting to the incidentals and start educating. The first function of government ought to be addressed again and again. It is to protect private property rights.
We need an educated populace (and it can start here) that understands government and its function. Otherwise, as long as we engage in the same half truth arguments and name calling that the other side does, we will lose it all.
"So implying that someone who has worked and slaved for a home is just forced to hand it over wihtout compensation is untrue."
NOT TRUE. Rare is it that a person gets what they put in, both in dollars and sweat.
That's a good statement, and I admire your coolness in a certainly inflammatory situation. However, the time for education has passed. Sure we need to educate the children, but what about the adults? This has gone so far as to have some calling for armed rebellion. I gotta tell you, I don't see much of a choice here if we want our property rights back. I even believe we should go so far as to not only demand that this ruling be over turned, but also an Amendment to the Constitution be added that prevents any government (state, local, county, municipal, federal) from directly taxing the property of individuals.
Go ahead and tell me to dream on if you want, but this is going to have to happen sooner or later or the bloodshed within the shores of America will be great. It will be brother against brother again. It might not happen in our lives, but our sons, daughters, and grandchildren will be left with the burden.
Spot on. Fascists allow private ownership of the means of production; we've passed to pure socialism.
"First, just as in eminent domain cases, the parties are PAID for the property. So implying that someone who has worked and slaved for a home is just forced to hand it over wihtout compensation is untrue."
Can you really know so little about how this works? I know of two examples in my area where this was crap.
example - a commercial property was purchased on the maine st. of a local town. The property was taxed at a rate of $36K a year (very small business in a poor community). The city decided they needed to widen the raod. They condemmed the property and offered the owner $12K. Apparently his $35K tax assessment only applied as 'fair value' till the city wanted to steal it. The owner hired a lawyer and his 'fair value' immediately jumped to $18K where it stood.
example- A town upstate wanted to take a property. They first rezoned the $200K property to allow commercial activity, dropping the 'fair market value' of the home by $60K overnight and then took it for that price despite a 5 year period of taxing the place at $200K
And another... In the 1930 the state leased some property from a landowner and built a dam. In the 1980's the local government taxed the property around the dam at about $100K. The state declared the area a wetland precluding any sale but maintaining the value for tax purposes. In the 1990's they ran out of money to maintain the dam. Situation today, there is a unmaintained state swamp being taxed as a more than $100K property while the wetland designation has reduced the actual property value to less than $3K when the owner decided to finally try to sell it to get out from under the tax debt. The city may end up with the mess as a tax seized property.
"fair value' is only the absolute least the city thinks it can get away with paying for their theft.
When Mr. Farah says taken, he doesn't mean you won't receive compensation, but it will be an artificially low price because Govt. no longer has to play by the same rules. His example is very simple, and easy to understand.
One other thing that comes to mind is that we aren't throwing the word "fascist" around lightly. Read some of the German Courts Decisions when Hitler came to power and before he became Der Fuhrer when he completely wiped out all authority save his own..