Posted on 06/23/2005 6:21:38 PM PDT by My Favorite Headache
I do too. I'd love for my kids to have the same childhood I had. But, sadly, it's not the same country as it was then. There are predators everywhere now. Our city, state and federal governments have seen to that.
Is it possible that the families are not legal residents, and the media are trying hard to avoid mentioning that, so they avoid the story?
There were three Mexican children brutally beheaded here in Baltimore last year in some kind of retribution situation. Very little has ever been said in the paper about the motive of the perps of that horrible crime - some think it was because coyotes did not get paid, or something along that line.
Amber alert. 3 missing boys, from 3 different families. Camden, NJ.
Maybe that is the reason, but it's not a good enough reason.
We are still on standby. They *still* haven't called in professional searchers.
Thanks for the alert....I heard about the case last night, on FOX News.....I agree that the coverage has been lacking but at this time I won't get into the reasons for that....I think many of us know why.
Prayers for these boys and their families.
This has been on tv cable right from the start. I would guess they didn't saturate the neighborhood immediately with media cameras because with three kids gone, they thought they'd turn up together a few hours later. One is 11, old enough to talk the others into going to the movies or whatever. But once this wasn't plausible, the media was on it. There's a reward of $9000. It hasn't got the play of the Holloway disappearance, but the three haven't been gone three weeks now, just a few days. Still, this is New Jersey, right? Not Aruba. So there's no media magic. How long did it take for cameras to blanket the Lundsford child's disappearance? She was blonde and white.
"There were adults outside at the time as well.Something sucks about this story."
As a former 15 year big-city detective and forensic expert, the first thought that comes to mind is that this scenario certainly does appear to be a bit suspicious. I read: 'Jesstin's mother, Jessica Pagan says, "I turned my back for two seconds and they were gone." '
Three kids just gone? No screams from the simultaneous abduction of three children? No scuffle at all for even 10 or 15 seconds?
Some questions: Were there any adults around OTHER than Jessica Pagan? If so, what have they said? If not, does Jessica; have some 'splainin' to do?
The 4 hour delay in contacting police seems extremely suspicious to me, and quite unusual. How soon after the disappearance were the other parents/relatives notified?
There are quite a few varied possibilities here, and it's always a mistake to jump too soon to conclusions or accusations, as the ultimate truth can quite often prove to be much stranger than fiction. Yet, this one, based on what I've read in the short article, seems to say that somebody knows more than they've told so far.
- knightshadow
It took 24 hrs for the media to surround the Lunsford home,I work in the media and saw it first hand. As for them only being gone "a couple of days",we are not talking about 20 yr olds here. We are talking about little kids. Is your atitude about this in your post supposed to be sarcastic? or Are you being legit with how you appear to be coming off like this is no big deal?
I'd feel more comfortable if she took a polygraph..has she?
sw
Not that I've heard, but, based on the information supplied so far, it would seem to be a good idea.
- knightshadow.
Haven't read the thread, but if this has been said before, sorry: just saw one of the mother's pleading on TV. Looked fake and even though she was pretending to cry, I saw no tears.
"I am praying, praying, praying..."
We are still on standby. They *still* haven't called in professional searchers.
I'm still praying...
"I am praying, praying, praying..."
We are still on standby. They *still* haven't called in professional searchers.
I'm still praying...
8mm
No, not being sarcastic at all. I don't think it's no big deal. My God. The kids have only been gone 24 hours, my error. I haven't seen a video of the mother, but only heard that she said she'd basically turned her back for a minute and the kids, who'd been playing in the yard, were gone. Then there were reports that the kids might have been seen later on here and there. I just suggested what the police might have thought, considering the ages of the boys. One is older and might have suggested something the others would have gone along with without thought. And when the police tell you something like that, could the boys have gone to a movie and not told you -- any parent would be upset, too. For one thing, where would they get the money. My fault. I was just trying to think of some plausible reason for the kids to leave the yard. And wouldn't it be hard for some sec offender to get all three into a van or car without some outcry or noise the mother might have heard? Mothers have ears as well as eyes in the back of their heads.
But sometimes press coverage or lack of it is odd. In Boston a few years back a small boy disappeared, and the local/area media went wild. Everybody, and that includes people in other nearby towns was worried, upset, and praying for this boy's return. It was still, basically, a Boston/Metrowest story. Well, we still don't know what happened to him, but after weeks of big coverage, news of the investigation became sporadic, and then went dead. Nobody knew what was up, and I don't mean in any way to imply that this might be the case with these three missing boys, but in the Boston case, the mother complained that the cops had just stopped looking for her boy, so they finally said they thought it was drug related, that she owed drug dealers, who simply took her son until she paid up. It was very peculiar, the coverage. I repeat, I'm not implying this scenario bears any resemblance to what might have happened to these boys, just commenting on the vagaries of tv and print coverage.
In this case, however, surely the police have questioned all known sex offenders in the area?
I'm not familiar with Camden, NJ, I've only seen same three pics of the missing kids, so my knowledge of the circumstances is spotty. Haven't caught an interview with the mom, but just assumed that was more local coverage. I did hear that they'd offered $9000 as a reward for information, etc.. I know I try to delete extra words, and that sometimes screws up my intentions/tone, but it isn't intentional. I was trying to save bandwidth and got into trouble. Mea Culpa. And look at this long post!
We had Molly Bish disappear a few years ago, and she was blonde, blue eyed, a life guard at a local pond, 16. They found bits of her skeleton a year or so ago, and the coverage on that seemed more local for a long time. Certainly not the megacoverage Natalee's gotten. I do think the combination of paradise island and missing young, nubile girl has tv networks thinking megaviewers.
No, not being sarcastic at all. And I don't think it's no big deal. My God. And the kids have been gone 24 hours, my error. I haven't seen a video of the mother, but only heard that she said she'd turned her back for a minute and the kids, who'd been playing in the yard, were gone. Then there were reports that the kids might have been seen later on here and there. I just suggested what the police might have thought, considering the ages of the boys. One is older and might have persuaded the other two to go with him to a store or a movie, or even to a neighborhood friend's house. And when the police tell you something like that, any parent would be outraged, too. My fault. I was just trying to think of some plausible reason for the kids to initially leave the yard.
But sometimes press coverage or lack of it is odd. In Boston a few years back a small boy disappeared, and the media went wild. Everybody, and that includes people in other area towns was worried, upset, and praying for this boy's return. Well, we still don't know what happened to him, but after weeks of big coverage, news of the investigation became sporadic, and then went dead. Nobody knew what was up, and I don't mean in any way to imply that this might be the case with these three missing boys, but in the Boston case, the mother complained that the cops weren't bothering to look for her boy and they finally said they thought it was drug related, that the mother owed drug dealers, who simply took her son until she paid up. It was very peculiar, the coverage. I repeat, I'm not implying this scenario bears any resemblance to what might have happened to these boys, just commenting on the vagaries of tv and print coverage.
In this case, surely the police have questioned all known sex offenders in the area?
I'm not familiar with Camden, NJ, I've only seen same three pics of the missing kids, so my knowledge of the circumstances is spotty. Haven't caught an interview with the mom, but just assumed that was more local coverage. I did hear that they'd offered $9000 as a reward for information, etc..
We had Molly Bish disappear a few years ago, and she was blonde, blue eyed, a life guard at a local pond, 16. They found bits of her skeleton a year or so ago, and the coverage on that seemed more local for a long time. It was a New England story. Certainly not the massive coverage Natalee's gotten. I do think the combination of paradise island and missing young, nubile girl has tv networks thinking money and Neilsen numbers.
Sorry about the double post. But just had another thought about the three missing boys. If we end up with witnesses who might be hauled in for questioning, like the Lundsford case, you'll see massive coverage. Hopefully, though, these boys will turn up okay.
Where's the Amber Alert on these kids?
And FOUR hours?? I'd be calling the police after 10 minutes of calling.
That seems a little suspicious to me. But that's just me I guess.
It only takes two seconds.
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