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Film Critics Barred From Mars
Internet Movie Database ^ | 6-23-05

Posted on 06/23/2005 4:06:51 PM PDT by Paul Atreides

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To: AnnaZ
It looks scary and depressing

Which would mean it was faithful to the novel.
81 posted on 06/23/2005 5:51:42 PM PDT by Borges
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To: Paul Atreides

I plugged in my "E-meter" and it blew a circuit. Could be bad news for War of the Worlds"


82 posted on 06/23/2005 5:53:12 PM PDT by lexington minuteman 1775
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To: null and void
I almost missed that LOL!
No, that was Zathras, not Zathras.
83 posted on 06/23/2005 5:53:34 PM PDT by Zathras
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To: Zathras
At least there is symmetry...
84 posted on 06/23/2005 5:58:56 PM PDT by null and void (2¢ plain)
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To: IYAAYAS

I'm going to see Land of the Dead this weekend, too. But Romero's lays on the liberal goo with a class warfare message for this movie. The evil rich, the haves and have nots, blah, blah, blah...


85 posted on 06/23/2005 6:01:04 PM PDT by jimbo123
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To: Paul Atreides
Film Critics Barred From Mars

...why? Because they might find out that Tom was actually born up there?

86 posted on 06/23/2005 6:01:52 PM PDT by RichInOC (...oops, did I say that out loud?)
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To: jimbo123

Yeah, I heard that too, but I love zombie movies so I'm going. I've never seen one in a theater.


87 posted on 06/23/2005 6:08:00 PM PDT by IYAAYAS (Live free or die trying)
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To: Paul Atreides
Mars doesn't need critics....


88 posted on 06/23/2005 6:13:36 PM PDT by xp38
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To: IYAAYAS

http://www.timesonline.com/site/news.cfm?newsid=14742052&BRD=2305&PAG=461&dept_id=478564&rfi=6

More on Land of the Dead:

"It's a message of what America has become," filmmaker George A. Romero said Wednesday.

In Romero's new zombie movie, "Land of the Dead," wealthy humans live in a luxurious skyscraper, oblivious to the lower-class people who struggle to survive in the streets while pure evil lurks on the other side of the river.

"The people who live in the high tower are like the administration saying, 'Don't worry, everything will be fine. As long as you buy stock in Enron, everything will be OK,' " Romero said.

"They might say we haven't been invaded since 9/11 and we're protected by water," Romero said. "Well, it's a false security. Just because we haven't been invaded since 9/11 doesn't mean it won't happen again. I don't have a lot of faith that all our bases are covered."

The Shadyside resident said he started writing "Land of the Dead" more than four years ago, originally intending the movie to comment on homelessness and AIDS.

"It was about ignoring the problems," Romero said.

He started shopping around the script just days before the Sept. 11 tragedy, after which nobody wanted to make such a dark movie. "They only wanted to make friendly little flicks," Romero said.

Subsequently, Romero tinkered with the script, "reflecting the very normal fear of terrorism," he said.


89 posted on 06/23/2005 6:16:19 PM PDT by jimbo123
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To: null and void
Yeah. 'Alien' scared the crap outta me.

I'm not talking about the original made in 1979. I'm talking about the sequel made by James Cameron.

90 posted on 06/23/2005 6:17:45 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
OK. That was scary enough.

I found Alien to be more scary. It was more claustrophobic, you got to know, and like, all the people before they were killed, and not being a sequel, you had NO IDEA what was going on for most of the movie (just like the crew of the Nostromo!).

91 posted on 06/23/2005 6:33:51 PM PDT by null and void (2¢ plain)
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To: null and void

I think the scariest movies are the ones in which there is practically no escape from the threat. That is why 1984 is such a chilling book.


92 posted on 06/23/2005 7:35:44 PM PDT by Paul Atreides (FACT: You can get more reliable information in a beauty shop, than from the media)
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To: null and void

LEISURE & ARTS

War of the Worldviews
H.G. Wells was a sci-fi pioneer, but his political ideas were abominable.

BY JOHN J. MILLER
Tuesday, June 21, 2005 12:01 a.m. EDT

If H.G. Wells had not performed poorly on an astronomical physics test and several other exams as a young man, he might have spent the rest of his life as an obscure academic rather than a popular author. He probably would not have written his most famous book, "The War of the Worlds"--a novel that's never gone out of print since its publication in 1898 and that now serves as the inspiration for the Stephen Spielberg film reaching theaters next Wednesday.

Those lousy marks at the Normal School of Science in London's South Kensington are perhaps one of the best things that ever happened to the original Martian chronicler. Wells himself didn't see them that way. He bore a deep grudge. In an 1895 story, "The Argonauts of the Air," his protagonists slam a "flying machine" into the Royal College of Science (as the Normal School had been renamed), causing explosions and fatalities. It's difficult to interpret the episode as something other than a morbid act of literary terrorism.

Even this didn't flush the anger out of his system. Three years later, in "The War of the Worlds," Wells unleashed those iconic tripods and their devastating heat rays on his old stomping ground. In a letter, he boasted of "selecting South Kensington for feats of peculiar atrocity."

Perhaps the professors got the message and began to practice grade inflation. Whatever the case, the author's lingering resentment highlights one of the central aspects of his work: He simply couldn't accept the world he encountered in his everyday life. Disappointments often sparked a destructive urge. The man was nothing if not a radical who yearned to reshape the fundamentals of human society through books and politics.





Wells was a pioneer of science fiction more than a generation before Hugo Gernsback coined the term in the 1920s, and he's often lumped together with another child of the 19th century, Jules Verne. When the two are compared--and Wells hated it when they were, because he held the Frenchman in low regard--Verne usually comes off as a relative lightweight. His fiction tended to focus on the gadgetry of hot-air balloons and submarines. Wells was no slouch on technical details, but he was far more interested in concocting grand theories about life, the universe and everything.
Verne at least got a few things startlingly right: In "From the Earth to the Moon" (1866), he described a rocket launching from the coast of Florida, not far from Cape Canaveral. On the return trip, Verne's astronauts splash down in the ocean close to the place where the Apollo 11 crew actually did.

Wells, for his part, was often appallingly wrong. "Human history is in essence a history of ideas," he once wrote. That may be, but Wells flirted with the worst ideas of his time. After interviewing Lenin, Wells called him "creative" and described communism as the best hope for reforming Russia. The man simply never met a collectivist movement that didn't intrigue him. "There is good in these Fascists," he said of Italians in 1927. "There is something brave and well-meaning about them." He despised Catholicism and mocked Jewish traditions as "nonsense." It was for views such as these that George Orwell delivered a blunt verdict in 1941: "Much of what Wells has imagined and worked for is physically there in Nazi Germany."

Orwell also was referring to the utopianism that distinguished so much of what Wells wrote. Whereas the author of "Animal Farm" and "1984" possessed a keen sense of how and why totalizing states go badly wrong, Wells was constantly drawing up plans for ideal societies driven by rationalist principles and governed by high-minded elites. This could lead to bizarre results: In "Men Like Gods," Wells envisioned a scheme of eugenic reproduction and centralized planning so perfect (in his mind) that everybody went shamelessly nude.

Defending this particular notion, Wells commented that the practice of wearing clothes was a silly taboo. He certainly had little patience for sexual mores. Admirers have hailed Wells as a proto-feminist, but he was more accurately an advocate of free love--a doctrine that typically benefits men who shirk their duties. As it happened, Wells treated the women in his life shabbily. He cheated on his wives and impregnated his mistresses.





Maybe he was just acting on Darwinian impulses. Wells was in fact a strident devotee of the evolutionary creed, which he learned from the biologist T.H. Huxley at the Normal School. "The War of the Worlds" is best interpreted as an aggressive statement of what C.S. Lewis called "Wellsianity"--the promotion of materialistic science as true faith. The moral of the story may be found in the novel's first sentence, which describes the sobering reality of "intelligences greater than man's and yet as mortal as our own." Humans aren't noble creatures of God, but animal feed for hungry Martians. If we are to go on living, it isn't for any purpose greater than "the sake of the breed" (as one character says in a late chapter).
At least Wells didn't let the Martians get away with their dastardly plot. They fall victim to disease spread by bacteria, which Wells called "the humblest things that God, in his wisdom, has put upon the earth." The author of these words would have profited from a little more humility himself. We should be grateful that he left his imprint on the science-fiction genre, and almost nowhere else.

Mr. Miller is a writer for National Review.


93 posted on 06/23/2005 7:40:08 PM PDT by Paul Atreides (FACT: You can get more reliable information in a beauty shop, than from the media)
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To: RabidBartender

Tim Robbins is in it? You wouldn't know it, to see the advertisments.


94 posted on 06/23/2005 7:49:41 PM PDT by Paul Atreides (FACT: You can get more reliable information in a beauty shop, than from the media)
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To: nothingnew
My point is, I'll watch a movie, and sometimes close my eyes and think about the subject matter, on my own. That's when it becomes "intellectual".

As is, apparently, the case with my posts.

95 posted on 06/23/2005 9:10:25 PM PDT by AmishDude (Once you go black hat, you never go back.)
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To: Borges
My biggest problem with AI was that it felt like Spielberg wanted to make this Kubrick project just to make it and didn't think the script through. It starts as some kind of takeoff on the Wizard of Oz, with the climax being a downer--he CAN'T become a real boy, so he ends up spending eternity wishing for it. Kubrick could have done something with that, but Spielberg, it seems, stapled on this ending in which the boy achieves the goal of spending another day with his mother--when did THIS become his goal? It's like he couldn't become a boy, so he tosses that idea aside and is happy just to spend one more day with a fake version of the mom. It's like another movie.

It feels like it properly ends when he's trapped face to face with the Blue Fairy.

But even so, the whole movie just feels slightly OFF, as if there is some unifying idea missing.

96 posted on 06/23/2005 11:37:48 PM PDT by Darkwolf377 (Don't suffer fools gladly? I don't suffer them at all.)
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To: Darkwolf377

I guess that 'something off' feel is what I found appealing about it. So many big studio projects like that seem to have been machine-made with every little crease and wrinkle ironed out. Kubrick's The Shining also had glaring logical and narrative flaws. But the sheer mood brings it across.


97 posted on 06/24/2005 7:06:13 AM PDT by Borges
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To: Borges

I dunno, the "something off" I refered to was a result of tedium, repetition and boredom, not something I think of as the sign of greatness in a movie. :) The incessant "I want to be a real boy" thing was just DULL, and his adventures were not very interesting. The Shining, on the other hand, had a sense of the uncanny, the unexplained, that was supremely creepy.


98 posted on 06/24/2005 10:05:52 AM PDT by Darkwolf377 (Don't suffer fools gladly? I don't suffer them at all.)
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To: Paul Atreides
I think the scariest movies are the ones in which there is practically no escape from the threat.

"Event Horizon" is just such a movie.....When my son and I first seen it, we both looked at each other and said "Whoa!" at the same time when it was over....

99 posted on 06/24/2005 10:08:53 AM PDT by dirtbiker (Solution for Terrorism: Nuke 'em 'till they glow, then shoot 'em in the dark!)
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To: Borges

It's exciting to meet (sort of) someone who liked A.I.

I never thought that would happen.


100 posted on 06/24/2005 10:16:50 AM PDT by altura
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