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As things look now, there is just cause to believe that Joran knows more about what happened that night than we have heard. I am not sure his Dad is involved, but he could be.

OTOH, I have yet to hear how gracious it was for Paul Van Der Sloot to invite Beth and Greta into their home for a 90 minute talk.

I can't understand not being able to give credit where it is due. PVDS didn't HAVE to ask them in...points for him. That's all..(ducking for cover now)..

"OTOH, I have yet to hear how gracious it was for Paul Van Der Sloot to invite Beth and Greta into their home for a 90 minute talk."

I'll give PVDS credit for inviting Greta and Beth into his house this past week. However, that fact doesn't change his behavior when he told his son to say nothing. Also, he had cameras in his face. Was he going to say NO and have it on tape for all to see?

Let's face it. It's highly unlikely for Natalee to have come in contact with another person after being with Juran. By their own admission, they were with her until at least 2AM. I'd say it's almost slime to none that another person got Natalee.

Having said that, I guess anything is possible, but who had the motive, or opportunity??? Juran and the other two lied. We're now hearing the father of Juran may have invented the whole LYING story. Why??? My guess is those kids haven't cracked due to the days and days of PVDS telling them to SAY NOTHING. Due to lunacy, he had at least 9 days to program Juran and the two brothers, into silence.

I know most here don't think Natalee was sold, but it too is possible. That would account for Juran and the other two, plus the Dad keeping their mouth shut. If they sold her and told the authoriites to whom, they might find their throats slit like the other guy. Which reminds me. Who killed him and why???

Sadly at this point, the only hope that Natalee is alive, is if she were sold and taken off the island, imo. I'm still hoping and praying for the miracle of Natalee being found alive and well.