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To: gingersnaps; the Deejay
What I saw in that interview was a very typical reaction from a mom and dad whose son is in trouble. Mom gets very emotional and shows it; dad is equally emotional but tries hard to stay at least outwardly calm and rational. The very effort of trying to stay cool can make you sweat.

But you weren't there the first night to see how rude and arrogant PVDS was to the Twittys, while ordering his son to keep his mouth shut.

PVDS obviously has shown a Jeckyl/Hyde persona to Beth Twitty. While everyone was hot that day, she said his sweating and mannerisms were remarkable.

You might want to check kcvl's posts (#3333, #3334, #3336 & #3338)regarding the sweating. BTW, kcvl, is a close friend of Natalee's aunt.

3,576 posted on 06/28/2005 12:48:35 PM PDT by demkicker (A skunk sat on a stump; the stump thunk the skunk stunk; the skunk thunk the stump stunk.)
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To: demkicker

I believe what Beth said
about the sweating. She
also said, PVDS was
sweating so profusely,
it was falling onto the
table and the Mrs. went
to the kitchen to get
a towel to wipe it up
and to wipe Paul's face.

Gee, I wish they hadn't
forbidden Greta's cameraman
that day.


3,582 posted on 06/28/2005 12:52:45 PM PDT by the Deejay (THE LADY DEEJAY)
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To: demkicker
But you weren't there the first night to see how rude and arrogant PVDS was to the Twittys, while ordering his son to keep his mouth shut.

And you weren't there either.

Like I've said, I admire Natalee's mom greatly, but I'm not sure how much stock we should put in the impressions of people who are exhausted, sick with worry, under huge, huge emotional stress.

And to look at it from the other side, I'm not sure I'd be kindly disposed toward strangers pulling up to my house at 3am, honking their horns, demanding to be let in, and jumping on my 17-year old son. (Let me stress, I don't know if that happened, either. But someone has characterized it that way.)

As to "ordering his son to keep his mouth shut," I don't find that at all surprising that a father would say that to his son -- especially a father who is a lawyer. Saying that is practically a reflex for lawyers (btw, if you're privy to that kind of information, do you know if Mr. vdS said that in English or in Dutch?).

I'm not a lawyer, but I myself have counseled my son not to volunteer information in certain situations where he's not certain what's going on.

For example, imagine you're being audited by the IRS. You don't know what triggered the audit, but the IRS, most of us suspect, is out to "get" us -- on any little thing they can find. Even if you know you've been honest, are you going to volunteer information to the IRS? If you do, you're foolish.

So I don't find it incriminating that Mr. vdS would have said that to his son, so early on in a hostile situation and before anyone knew exactly what was happening.

OF course, once the gravity of the situation had become clear and Joran was being questioned by legitimate authorities, he had an obligation to answer the authorities' questions truthfully.

3,659 posted on 06/28/2005 1:53:42 PM PDT by gingersnaps
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