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To: Capn TrVth
Agreed, but I have to entertain the notion that "the van der Sweat" was a result of "concern for his Son."

I agree. I think waaaaaaay too much is being made here of the sweating thing. There are lots of reasons a parent might sweat over a child -- especially as those of us who've had teenagers know!

If my son were only 17 years old and was

(a) accused of murder
(b) had been held in jail practically incommunicado for weeks
(c) subjected to 10 hour interrogations
(d) not allowed a lawyer's counsel during interrogations (that's the procedure in Aruba)
(e) being attacked by the likes of Whorealdo and O'Reilly as a murdererous brat who only needs to be "broken down" by interrogators so that the "truth" is "squeezed out of him"

...and if, on top of that, I'M being questioned on camera before a world-wide audience, I think I'd be sweating pretty profusely too! -- Even if I knew my son were innocent.

Before I get flamed for being too soft or wanting to coddle Joran or sympathizing with a murderer, please note: I'm not doing that. I'm only noting a situation that could make any parent (even an innocent one) sweat.

Now I don't claim to know whether Joran or Paulus van der Sloot are guilty, or not guilty, of anything. And I don't think anybody else here has much claim on the truth of this case either. There are precious few genuine, certified known FACTS to work with, and there's great reason to doubt the media's sensational reporting and the media's "reliable sources" (what with the ridiculous false stories we've had already). And silly speculation is running stark raving mad.

3,418 posted on 06/28/2005 10:52:39 AM PDT by gingersnaps
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To: gingersnaps

The Mother wasn't sweating.

She appeared to be much more upset that her son was in jail than van der Sweat to me.


3,423 posted on 06/28/2005 10:55:38 AM PDT by WestCoastGal
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To: gingersnaps

PS

Not flaming you, just stating what I saw. :)


3,426 posted on 06/28/2005 10:56:45 AM PDT by WestCoastGal
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To: gingersnaps

I'm going with the instincts of Natalee's mother. She thinks the elder VDS knows more than he's told.


3,427 posted on 06/28/2005 10:57:51 AM PDT by onyx (Pope John Paul II - May 18, 1920 - April 2, 2005 = SANTO SUBITO!)
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To: gingersnaps

Gingersnaps, if I disagree with you please? do not turn into a werewolf and seek me out. There are some people who have the qualifications as to kinesis and conducting criminal investigations, to be possibly very accurate in their speculations/comments.

You have made a good point and I do respect it. NSNR


3,434 posted on 06/28/2005 11:02:15 AM PDT by No Surrender No Retreat
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To: gingersnaps
Now I don't claim to know whether Joran or Paulus van der Sloot are guilty, or not guilty, of anything. And I don't think anybody else here has much claim on the truth of this case either. There are precious few genuine, certified known FACTS to work with, and there's great reason to doubt the media's sensational reporting and the media's "reliable sources" (what with the ridiculous false stories we've had already). And silly speculation is running stark raving mad.

I totally agree! I think people are so eager to "solve" this that they are grasping onto every little thing they can to hang of these folks. I must admit that with the little bit of what we've been able to observe it seems that they're invovled somehow - but really when you look at it - we know so VERY FEW of the REAL facts. We can make assumptions - but there is SO LITTLE hard evidence.

I really wonder if things were turned around a little - and it was an Aruban girl missing here would we be so quick to accuse the young man... and his family.

My heart breaks for Natalee's family - I know they are hoping against hope for ANY answers - but I worry that we are very quick to rush to a judgment. If these fellows are involved in anyway - all the wild speculation on rumors can only hurt a case against them I think...

3,449 posted on 06/28/2005 11:14:55 AM PDT by pamlet
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