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To: brigette
I wonder how many other people Natalee "saw" at the casino? Probably a lot were "seen." So I am not going to get too alarmed at that. But, from what her 2 friends who were at the gambling table with her said on TV, Joran was sitting at the same table. They made no mention of the father. They said Joran was winning. Natalee introduced herself to him. Both confirmed that. I don't think Dad was right there, perhaps in the Casino, but no mention of him with Joran at the table. Nor that Natalee actually met the father. I would think that important point would have been mentioned by the 2 friends, or other friends would have brought it up. I wonder why it was not, it seems significant if true. Did the statement specifically identify that she met the father?

I also read Deepak's statement, I think you posted that several days ago also. Of course who knows what is true, but IIFC, Deepak did make mention that Natalee said she had lost $320 of her father's money and asked Joran to help her win it back. (The girls on TV made no mention of any money Natalee lost. That would be an interesting point to hear from them.) Anyway, Deepak said that Joran said he did help her and won $100 for her, but said that was all he could do. It was sometime then that she asked him to meet or join them at C&C's later. One of her friends said she heard that, another said she had not heard that comment. So, it does seem that Natalee did have some contact with Joran and initiated it that night. Whether she had seen him before or not, there seems to be some contradiction among her friends, but all agree that there was a definite meeting at the Casino (as confirmed by both her friends on TV and, then by Deepak in his statement).

Now we know what Deepak says is second-hand from Joran, as Deepak was working when Joran was at the Casino. But apparently Joran called him and asked him to pick him up and take him to C&C's (after Joran's father had brought him home at 11 p.m.) Then, as it has been reported often, Joran sneaked out, went to C&C's. He probably told Deepak something like "this girl wants me to meet her there; I met her at the Casino, it is her last night here...etc." That would be typical for a kid to say.

As to the ATM, someone mentioned that maybe Joran withdrew the money. Could be possible, too. Maybe to help Natalee out with her losses to her Daddy? Maybe to pay some gambling debt he had at the Casino? Maybe it was Daddy vdS for some payment. I am sure that info will come out too, eventually. We still only have assumptions.

Pray for Natalee, her family and all families involved in this horrible tragedy. May God give the innocent strength, and motivate the guilty - whoever they are to come forward and tell the truth.

1,334 posted on 06/25/2005 8:31:55 AM PDT by CitizenM ("An excuse is worse than an lie, because an excuse is a lie hidden." Pope John Paul, II)
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To: CitizenM

I would think that if Joran withdrew money to give to Natalee to help out with her losses he would have done it before he met back up with her. Hate to say, but if he hoped to get something that night, it would have made a good impressiion. 3AM is awfully late for him to decide to be so generous.


1,465 posted on 06/25/2005 10:58:05 AM PDT by Conservative Texan Mom (Happy to Homeschool)
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