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Natalee Holloway - Case Discussion Extended Thread 3
Link to previous thread ^ | 6/23/05 | freepers

Posted on 06/23/2005 10:44:51 AM PDT by stlnative

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To: maggiefluffs

I don't have time right now but I found some personal pictures of the Fisherman Huts in aruba on Webshots a couple dyas ago. You could try a keyword search there if you like. But I will do the search later tonight and will let you know what I come up with. The ones I saw on webshots looked like abobes with vent holes and wood doors.


4,481 posted on 06/29/2005 2:14:02 PM PDT by stlnative (please do NOT feed the THREAD trolls by responding to the thread troll's post)
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To: maggiefluffs

Ok.. I stand corrected.


4,482 posted on 06/29/2005 2:15:24 PM PDT by dc-zoo
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To: dc-zoo

There are at least 15 cell towers on the island - this is now known from doing some research.


4,483 posted on 06/29/2005 2:15:30 PM PDT by stlnative (please do NOT feed the THREAD trolls by responding to the thread troll's post)
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To: GarySpFc

Can you give me a MSM resource for these ATM transactions?


4,484 posted on 06/29/2005 2:18:02 PM PDT by stlnative (please do NOT feed the THREAD trolls by responding to the thread troll's post)
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To: Quilla
"I'd love to see the transcript of John's first telling of his conversation with Deepak because something about the AT lady bugs me. "

I saw her as well, she seemed giddy to me like she was on something. I think most of the population on that island are a bunch of drunks and/or addicts. Party on.....

4,485 posted on 06/29/2005 2:20:24 PM PDT by WestCoastGal
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To: brigette
"Now Joran is telling police that he walked home. So Joran is really the only one "still" lying. He keeps lying about how he got home that morning. Why? Is it because his father came and got him or someone else that was involved in killing Natalee with Joran gave him a ride home? Joran is trying like crazy to cover up how he got home that morning"

Bingo!!

J is not the kind of guy that is going to walk anywhere!! He's used to driving or using his friends as taxicabs. He has that upper class mentality that they have going on down there.

4,486 posted on 06/29/2005 2:24:04 PM PDT by WestCoastGal
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To: maggiefluffs
Help Police! Vista aruba BB Have you seen this site?

"HELP - POLICE?! how to contact?! I cannot find any web address info for police stations in Aruba. I am trying to get info on their current investigation on the DISAPPEARANCE (ABDUCTION? MURDER?) of a teenaged girl during our local high school's trip to Aruba. How can I reach them?!"

"The child's mother has flown to Aruba to help look for her. Our only source for information is the travel agent, who is not receiving much info,..."

She goes on to mention 2 other kidnapped girls that were rescued by aruba police. Lots of posts. Dated May 31st.

4,487 posted on 06/29/2005 2:30:05 PM PDT by monkeywrench (Deut. 27:17 Cursed be he that removeth his neighbor's landmark)
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To: WestCoastGal

Yes... walking home would have been Joran's last resort. I believe that he would even call the brothers in the middle of the night to ask them for a ride home before he would hoof it on foot. The brothers probably told him no or or they let him down gently and told to try and find another way home and if you can't find a ride home from someone else then call us back. The text messages was to let the brother know he made it home after calling them for a ride home.


4,488 posted on 06/29/2005 2:35:00 PM PDT by stlnative (please do NOT feed the THREAD trolls by responding to the thread troll's post)
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To: monkeywrench; All

I think that's Dash's mom.




Wacky Shango alert!

http://www.scaredmonkeys.com/?p=1193

http://www.scaredmonkeys.com/?p=1200#comments

http://www.riehlworldview.com/carnivorous_conservative/2005/06/natalee_hollowa_53.html#comments


4,489 posted on 06/29/2005 2:35:09 PM PDT by maggief
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To: brigette

I hate to think of how this story will end. Doesn't look like they're going to find a body. The news media will soon jump to a new and bigger story and the case will then fall into the recycle bin. It would be nice to have some answers before that happens. Sure looks like JVDS will get away with murder.


4,490 posted on 06/29/2005 2:36:11 PM PDT by dc-zoo
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To: brigette

No, but those were reported in the press.


4,491 posted on 06/29/2005 2:36:42 PM PDT by GarySpFc (Sneakypete, De Oppresso Liber)
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To: maggiefluffs

Thanks. Has anything on the purported 2 other girls turned up?


4,492 posted on 06/29/2005 2:49:14 PM PDT by monkeywrench (Deut. 27:17 Cursed be he that removeth his neighbor's landmark)
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To: dc-zoo
It's unlikely they have multiple cell towers

Think so, too. The nearest one may be in Caracas.

4,493 posted on 06/29/2005 2:50:09 PM PDT by the Deejay (THE LADY DEEJAY)
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To: brigette

Sounds very plausible.


4,494 posted on 06/29/2005 3:00:53 PM PDT by Actually_in_Tokyo
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To: brigette

I make it about 2.5 miles at most from Cali lighthouse to the van der Sweat house, -does that sound right to you Brigette?


4,495 posted on 06/29/2005 3:04:00 PM PDT by Capn TrVth
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To: the Deejay

MSNBC interviewing Aruba's chief prosecutor.

"Others were text messaged."

Emails, text messages, cell records, ATM records.


4,496 posted on 06/29/2005 3:05:15 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: Howlin

"Harm done to the investigation by the father and the family."

Harm or obstructed.

Father HAS spoken with the three suspects and she thinks it went further than legal advice.

He said "If there is no body there is no crime."

The parents have asked one of the released guys to come to the home and tell them what he told the police!


4,497 posted on 06/29/2005 3:08:07 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: brigette
Glad I went to bed when I did or I'd have been up at least another 30 mins thinking about your scenarios/questions. Good post.

I tend to agree with you, that the brothers really DID go home and were not involved in the murder or body hiding. I do think that they may have been asked to lie by the VDS's (assuming the Dad), and may have believed some bull from him like "You HAVE to do this, boys. You are as involved as Joran. Hang tight with this story and this will all blow over in a couple of weeks. My friends in the justice and police depts will see to that."

I don't think that 1+ hour was enough time to dispose of the body. I still think the body hiding came AFTER Joran made that text message to Deepak.

I do not think Joran intended to kill Natalee. However, rough sex with a very intoxicated person would be manslaughter at the least. I don't even know whether the father was involved in her death; another scenario might have Natalee struggling for breath or still with a HB or pulse when Dad VDS shows, and he decides they'd get in less trouble if Natalee just went for a long swim rather than bring her to the hospital, where a rape kit would show the VDS DNA. This is just one of a million scenarios, but it does involve murder one.

4,498 posted on 06/29/2005 3:08:55 PM PDT by Yaelle
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To: Howlin

Good! When does she present new evidence to have the perps held over again?


4,499 posted on 06/29/2005 3:09:07 PM PDT by Jrabbit
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To: Howlin; All; maggiefluffs; brigette; spectre; TexKat

------>A couple of days after she went missing, the father told the boys "if there is no body, there is no crime."


4,500 posted on 06/29/2005 3:09:33 PM PDT by Howlin
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