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Natalee Holloway - Case Discussion Extended Thread 3
Link to previous thread ^ | 6/23/05 | freepers

Posted on 06/23/2005 10:44:51 AM PDT by stlnative

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To: TexKat

I watched Greta's interview (thank you for posting the text) last night and probably like most of you, my jaw dropped when John implicated the family/father in the fabrication of the story. Shortly thereafter, Greta interviewed the lady from 'Aruba Today' for a balanced perspective. (Yea, right.) I was amazed at her talent for total recall. She immediately remarked that she had heard John's original comments on the matter and claimed he said "the boys" concocted the story. I'd love to see the transcript of John's first telling of his conversation with Deepak because something about the AT lady bugs me.


4,421 posted on 06/29/2005 11:48:35 AM PDT by Quilla
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To: Nita Nupress

Thanks for that review of the Aruban mafia and its members and activities.

I found it interesting where that one fellow says "If I know what the government is going to do tomorrow, I read El Diario today."

We have been noticing that Jossy Mansur says something to Greta one night and VOILA! the next day the govrnment investigators do just that.

I am beginning to lose hope that Natalee will ever be found in such an atmosphere of intrigue, infighting, and corruption.


4,422 posted on 06/29/2005 11:48:38 AM PDT by Palladin (God Bless America!)
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To: Howlin

So, the prosecuters office said this and not a journalist? Did she say they wanted to interview Jug and the ex bf or is that a different report?


4,423 posted on 06/29/2005 11:53:06 AM PDT by Jrabbit
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To: Jrabbit

This was that older journalist (with "Aruba Today"), the guy with glasses; a big guy. At least talking about the friends.

But Carol McKinley was reporting on what the government official said about maybe arresting more people.


4,424 posted on 06/29/2005 11:54:34 AM PDT by Howlin
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To: maggiefluffs
and a text message from JvdS to DK at approximately 3:30 am, content not confirmed.

I am pretty sure that the contents of the text message has been confirmed or is known by police - they used this to catch Joran lying again - As Joran claimed he called Deepak to get a ride and I think he claims Deepak came and got him, and police asked Joran why would you send a text message to Deepak, saying I made it home" if he was the one that just drop you off? - Then Joran changed his story that,. oops it wasn't Deepak it was Satish that came a got me and dropped me off. Satish denies picking up Joran. Deepak and Satish are each others alibi's because they cannot prove they were at home, but police probably know that Deepak was at home because the cell records can be traced to which towers picked up the phone calls. One tower near Joran would pick up his call and the signal would be "switched out" to a tower near Deepak.

Now Joran is telling police that he walked home. So Joran is really the only one "still" lying. He keeps lying about how he got home that morning. Why? Is it because his father came and got him or someone else that was involved in killing Natalee with Joran gave him a ride home? Joran is trying like crazy to cover up how he got home that morning
4,425 posted on 06/29/2005 11:56:17 AM PDT by stlnative (please do NOT feed the THREAD trolls by responding to the thread troll's post)
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To: Howlin
BTW, I think the "may arrest more people" is just a boilerplate answer that this government is giving out to anybody who asks, as in "Of course, if new evidence, etc., comes out, we will arrest more people if we need to."

It really is laughable, isn't it? Their broken record announcements about "more arrests are possible" are definitely boiler plate.

I kept trying to hang in there and believe the authorities would do the right thing even though they screwed up the beginning of the investigation, but when they let PVDS go, that did it for me.

As for the McKinley report, I actually wondered to myself if they have to ARREST people down there to QUESTION them.

You know, I think you're definitely onto something!

4,426 posted on 06/29/2005 11:58:20 AM PDT by demkicker (A skunk sat on a stump; the stump thunk the skunk stunk; the skunk thunk the stump stunk.)
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To: Peach

I just got home from VBS and I don't have time to get totaly caught up (have to help my daughter pack since they're moving this weekend). Would you please tell me what the security guard said?


4,427 posted on 06/29/2005 12:02:47 PM PDT by Krodg
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To: maggiefluffs

Thanks. I tried searching but came up w/nothing. How did you find out?

I DON'T know how you.. do what you do, but your excel at it! Thanks, again.


4,428 posted on 06/29/2005 12:03:09 PM PDT by presently no screen name
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To: Krodg

The security guard was interviewed by Greta last night and was a very impressive witness. He heard from the boys, while they were all in jail, that the father helped them cook up their cover story.

Hope your daughters move goes well.


4,429 posted on 06/29/2005 12:04:50 PM PDT by Peach
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To: Nita Nupress

Nita to answer your email - Yes I have a Tivo like system. I can record things if I set it to record. Or I can replay (rewind) things that I am "currently" watching on TV. I did not watch Dayside today so there is no way to replay it on my Tivo like system.


4,430 posted on 06/29/2005 12:08:36 PM PDT by stlnative (please do NOT feed the THREAD trolls by responding to the thread troll's post)
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To: Howlin

That was the Aruban reporter Tito Lecle. (pronounced le-clay).

He is a sleazeball. I can't believe he was allowed to throw out those theories on FOX. He must be working for the Van der Sloots.


4,431 posted on 06/29/2005 12:08:55 PM PDT by Palladin (God Bless America!)
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To: All

Just a list of theories. One or a few of which we all have.

http://msnbc.msn.com/id/8376303/


4,432 posted on 06/29/2005 12:11:18 PM PDT by toldyou
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To: Howlin

Thanks....I need to pay more attention. And stick to reading one board about the case! Amazing the different takes on things and all the rumors....oh my.


4,433 posted on 06/29/2005 12:11:31 PM PDT by Jrabbit
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To: Peach

Thanks Peach. I have time to read one more page before I leave. I'll never get caught up tonight.

Kandy


4,434 posted on 06/29/2005 12:12:17 PM PDT by Krodg
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To: brigette
He keeps lying about how he got home that morning. Why? Is it because his father came and got him or someone else that was involved in killing Natalee with Joran gave him a ride home? Joran is trying like crazy to cover up how he got home that morning

Didn't PvdS say something to the effect of "I hope Juran can stand/hold up"? Stand/hold up to what? Spilling the beans?

4,435 posted on 06/29/2005 12:14:54 PM PDT by auboy ("woof")
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To: brigette

brigette--your recaps of the timeline and accompanying events on this thread are excellent. It helps us to get a hold of the sequence of events and who did what. (Theoretically).

How thorough was the search of the Van der Sloot property? I'm thinking of that guy in Oregon who killed his two 13 year old neighbors a couple of months apart. Both bodies were hidden right on his property, which police searched several times without finding them.

Also, did they search the property of VDS neighbor who ia "away"? The ones with the monkey? These internationalists spend time "away"--back in Holland or wherever--for three or six or nine months at a clip. Perhaps Joran and the father took advantage of the neighbors' absence to hide a body somewhere on their property--even though it is mighty close to home.


4,436 posted on 06/29/2005 12:15:21 PM PDT by Palladin (God Bless America!)
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To: brigette

Did the text message say 'I made it home' or MJ's version that when he got home he would talk to him on line?

So far the only Aruban I tend to put any faith in is MJ, JMO.


4,437 posted on 06/29/2005 12:15:31 PM PDT by maggief
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To: brigette
Joran is trying like crazy to cover up how he got home that morning

Setting up his alibi, w/the text messages.

Remember when Scott Peterson left a message to Laci, on the home phone machine?

This was done when Scott was on his way home from the bay.

4,438 posted on 06/29/2005 12:15:44 PM PDT by the Deejay (THE LADY DEEJAY)
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To: Howlin
As for the McKinley report, I actually wondered to myself if they have to ARREST people down there to QUESTION them

On the same line, I wonder if they do their investigation in sections because they have to have something new for the judge at each new hearing. I think I remember the gov. representative saying that more is needed each court appearance.

4,439 posted on 06/29/2005 12:15:52 PM PDT by imaketypos
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To: Krodg

I don't think there's a whole lot going on, so you probably won't miss much. As I mentioned a couple of days ago, they are going to let them all go, imo.


4,440 posted on 06/29/2005 12:18:35 PM PDT by Peach
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