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Natalee Holloway - Case Discussion Extended Thread 3
Link to previous thread ^ | 6/23/05 | freepers

Posted on 06/23/2005 10:44:51 AM PDT by stlnative

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To: TAquinas

OK, good night to all of you.

I still think the guards they released in the beginning should be taken back in and questioned more thoroughly since they haven't spoken the truth. They looked suspicious when first arrest and they still do after lying to the authorities. Their profiles also don't look good.

Now, of course, this is just an opinion of mine as I'm not in Aruba investigating this case. Were I, this case would have been solved the day the guards were arrested.

That's just my honest and unbiased opinion.

Good night y'all!


4,221 posted on 06/28/2005 9:37:03 PM PDT by TAquinas
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To: TAquinas
When I first saw the pictures of the guards, they looked very suspicious and thought they must have done it. Also, statistics supported my assumption back then. They do commit most of the crimes in our country too.

Unrelated? These are your own words. You come to this thread with your riddle at your own risk. Why don't you just spit it out?

4,222 posted on 06/28/2005 9:37:30 PM PDT by auboy ("woof")
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To: TexKat

I think that Rick Leventhal (sp?) from FOX news did a good job at that start of this case, he was good to get a lot of the facts out that we are still working with.


4,223 posted on 06/28/2005 9:39:09 PM PDT by Cate
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To: onyx

Hi Onyx - Welcome Home!




4,224 posted on 06/28/2005 9:42:09 PM PDT by presently no screen name
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To: TexKat
Since I am not able to keep up with all of these posts can you tell me if the possibility of the elder Van der sloot being blackmailed has been discussed or given much weight? I know their is a trend to think he was well connected and being given undeserved leniency but I think as good of case could be made that he is a man who was in a career crisis and questionable standing. (Somewhere in this thread I read that he wasn't well liked in his work and had been assigned to low profile duties.)
4,225 posted on 06/28/2005 9:42:12 PM PDT by Dolphy
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To: onyx

"illegal Mexican aliens (our fellow Catholics) commit a good proportion of the crimes in this country"

Yes, they do commit a lot of crimes too. But most of these crimes are committed by non-Catholic -Christians.

Most Mexicans are not Catholic and those that are are of European descend.

These illegal aliens must be deported back to Mexico.


4,226 posted on 06/28/2005 9:43:06 PM PDT by TAquinas
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To: presently no screen name


Hey YOU. Thanks. Not much has changed, has it?


4,227 posted on 06/28/2005 9:43:09 PM PDT by onyx (Pope John Paul II - May 18, 1920 - April 2, 2005 = SANTO SUBITO!)
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To: TexKat

Not offended. Actually I just heard the beginning of Greta coming on I think. I'll have to go check.


4,228 posted on 06/28/2005 9:43:16 PM PDT by Canadian Outrage (All us Western Canuks should separate from central Canada and join together with Alberta !)
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To: Cate
I think that Rick Leventhal (sp?) from FOX news did a good job at that start of this case, he was good to get a lot of the facts out that we are still working with.

True Cate. Leventhal himself got a little flustered with O'Reillys b/s.

4,229 posted on 06/28/2005 9:43:21 PM PDT by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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To: TAquinas


I hope you're right --- that they're not Catholic.

Agreed - deport 'em.

Good nite, TA.


4,230 posted on 06/28/2005 9:44:13 PM PDT by onyx (Pope John Paul II - May 18, 1920 - April 2, 2005 = SANTO SUBITO!)
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To: No Surrender No Retreat

Anything is possible no???!!!


4,231 posted on 06/28/2005 9:44:16 PM PDT by Canadian Outrage (All us Western Canuks should separate from central Canada and join together with Alberta !)
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To: Dolphy

Just posted on Reihl World

A Change In Mood

Something happened this evening in Aruba to significantly change the tone of the family of Natalee Holloway. Whatever it was is not generally known, but thought to come from a private meeting with Aruban authorities about which the family isn't commenting, other than to say they are feeling better as regards the progress of the investigation.

Additional information on Paul(us) v d Sloot suggests if there is anyone legal mind on the island who might outwit the prosecution in this case, it could be him. Some colleagues have suggested that he is known to have poured over case law many have rarely if ever even read and is considered somewhat of an authority on not only the law, but the subtle loopholes and manipulations which can help an individual get around it.

This would fit very well into his past history on two levels. In Holland he is known for having tied the government's hands for nearly twenty years while preventing the building of a highway which would have cut into his family's estate. Ultimately, the highway took an entirely different route.

Added to that are other reports that as a lawyer he did not go directly into government service, but instead worked on behalf of those needing asisstance with conflicts with the government.

As regards an earlier comment of mine about a possible pattern for Joran v d Sloot, posted here - I probably did throw it out a bit too casually. The point required additional information which I was a little too busy to address at the time.

Joran was well known to many casino and hotel staff in Aruba - as was his taste in American women. In many ways it is safe to say the young man admired many things American and he did want very much to travel here to secure his college education. That's also consistent with the email I received from an individual purported to be Joran on the night before his arrest.

Reports state that his english was unusually good, probably a result of study to make it so. And he was not shy about employing it, very often in approaching American women visiting the island. Some staff in a local hotel have even expressed surprise at how seemingly fearless he seemed, never hesitating to approach an attractive young American woman he encountered, and most usually they were young and blonde.

It certainly doesn't make anyone guilty of anything. But it also does establish a pattern witnessed by many for Joran, who some others have described as a sexual predator, to aproach a young woman who looked very much like Natalee Holloway. As relayed to me by an indivdual from the island, she was absolutely the type of young woman Joran would seek out and approach.

At the same time there seems to be no basis for his having been enrolled in some type of anger management program through his school, or otherwise. I've yet to talk to one individual who can even establish that a formalized program of that type exists on Aruba. While he was known to have seen a therapist, whatever the cause, it remains confidential and mostly unknown.


4,232 posted on 06/28/2005 9:44:53 PM PDT by HoHoeHeaux
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To: Dolphy

Even if you are right in the way you describe Paulus van der Sloot, would that have anything to do with whether or not he might be being blackmailed? I can't see the connection. But I have a question...blackmailed by whom to do what and for what reason?


4,233 posted on 06/28/2005 9:46:49 PM PDT by txrangerette
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To: onyx

I'm going to watch the show friends. Good night. We'll all be back tomorrow I'm sure. CO


4,234 posted on 06/28/2005 9:47:17 PM PDT by Canadian Outrage (All us Western Canuks should separate from central Canada and join together with Alberta !)
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To: TAquinas

Were I, this case would have been solved the day the guards were arrested.




WOW - you would never make a good detective. Just pick up someone and case closed.


4,235 posted on 06/28/2005 9:48:25 PM PDT by presently no screen name
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To: Canadian Outrage
Missing teen's mom devastated by release

ORANJESTAD, Aruba (AP) — The mother of an Alabama honors student missing in Aruba for a month said Tuesday she is devastated by the release of a Dutch suspect's father and convinced the high-ranking judicial official is hiding information.

"I know in my heart he has some answers," Beth Holloway Twitty told The Associated Press in an interview.

She said her suspicions were based on his behavior when she went to his house looking for those answers last week, and Paul van der Sloot, who's training to be a judge on the Dutch Caribbean island, could not stop perspiring. "I've never sat across from an individual in a well-ventilated room who was sweating so profusely. His wife had to use napkins to wipe his forehead, and the sweat drops falling on the table" as they sat under a fan.

4,236 posted on 06/28/2005 9:48:46 PM PDT by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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To: onyx

Santo subitissimo.

Vivat BenedictusXVI and vivat Jesus.


4,237 posted on 06/28/2005 9:48:49 PM PDT by TAquinas (Benedictus XVI: The Enforcer. The Restorer. The Uniter.)
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To: Canadian Outrage


G'nite CO. I'm about to call it quits for tonight too.
See you tomorry.


4,238 posted on 06/28/2005 9:49:06 PM PDT by onyx (Pope John Paul II - May 18, 1920 - April 2, 2005 = SANTO SUBITO!)
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To: Conservababe

My thoughts exactly. Dad looks guilty. I think the son could even be covering up for his dad. Maybe the other way around. Either way there is something about the dad that makes me think he is a strange one. His looks and venerr remind me of Jeffrey Dahmer.


4,239 posted on 06/28/2005 9:49:31 PM PDT by Bittersweetmd ((But, for the grace of God there go I .))
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To: TexKat

You are correct, even in his blogs his frustration was shining through. I think he doesn't suffer fools easily in life.


4,240 posted on 06/28/2005 9:50:23 PM PDT by Cate
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