Posted on 06/23/2005 10:44:51 AM PDT by stlnative
I hear ya! me either. I just don't when to let it be and get to bed. BUT I HAVE to watch Greta.
That's one thing cops know about kids, they blab like crazy to each other. If this fades away with no N found and no charges, J will eventually boast about how tough he is and what really happened...wonder if he will turn out like Michael Skakel, in that case. Convicted years later.
I hope not!! Beth is convinced it's Joran. Absolutely convinced!
I want to remind all of you of this... they may force the Twitty's off the island
Non-citizens of Aruba cannot remain on the island for longer than 90 days without a residency permit. To obtain a permit, you must be able to show financial resources to support yourself (and anyone staying with you) without employment, along with other information. Contact the immigration authorities in Aruba for details.
Tourists
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For entering Aruba tourists from the United States of America must be in possession of ONE of the following:
Valid US Passport
Valid 'laissez-passer' issued by the United Nations
US-born citizens: Official state-issued birth certificate (original only) with
a raised seal and ID photograph.
US citizens born outside the US: Certificate of Naturalization (original
only) with a raised seal and ID photograph.
US-residents (who are not US citizens) must have a re-entry permit or
Alien Registration Card (Green Card)
Tourists are not allowed to work, look for or accept any work during their stay, neither are they permitted to do business or participate in any business on the island.
Tourists should have in their possession:
a return ticket, or a ticket to travel elsewhere outside Aruba
the necessary documents for returning to the country of origin, or for further travel elsewhere (visa, etc.)
sufficient means at their disposal to be able to support themselves during their stay in Aruba and must be able to prove this, if requested. upon arrival in Aruba
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the home and business addresses for the last ten years
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police-clearance (good conduct-paper, not older than 2 months)
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Written Permits
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Conversation w/ Joran was frustrating because the dad kept telling him to say nothing. Jug & Beth KNOW Joran did something to Natalee, but Beth KNOWS PVDS knows something. Beth says she couldn't believe how much he sweated during that interview and that his actions were abnormal.
Jug says he has contacted Richard Shelby's office and other pols. They just need some help from the U.S. Beth says it crossed her mind today that Joran must be very well connected too. He's just a 17 yr old kid sitting in jail and they still don't know anything more now than when they got there.....
Greta remarked that there doesn't seem to be anything new to report and Jug says he's sick of repeating the same old things. They really want some help and have been more than patient.... My heart aches for them.
Wow, Beth saying during that interview at the VDS house, she never saw anyone sweat that night like PVDS did, in a well ventilated room, at that. He had/has information, and acts guilty. Plus, neither he nor Joran came forward to help search for Natalee, not once. As Jug said, if it'd been him, and his son had been with Natalee the night she'd vanished, he'd have made his son help look for her. Common decency demanded no less, and that didn't happen.
Entry Requirements & Visas
http://www.visitaruba.com/travel/toaruba/customs.html
I'll go with Beth. I'm absolutely convinced "hot shot" is guilty.
I'm convinced J is guilty, too. Probably accidentally killed her after raping her...an FBI profiler, Pat Brown, outlined this a few days ago on Fox as her take on what happened, and it makes sense. J being what and who he is, thought he'd get sex from N simply because she got into that car, and N didn't agree, so he got rough, and she died.
Colmes... back from the beach!
LOL!
Well, wouldn't that wrap things up nicely for the VDS's -- if Aruba, (with deep regret), forced the Twitty's to leave.
Mariaine Croes, prosecution's spokeperson, won't come out and definitely answer Greta's question about whether or not they've captured text messages. She just says, "that is something we've looked into." Same old crap....
this may be why Beth continues to clearly say she will not leave without Natalee - she probably knows about this 90 day limit.
the US should ban all
Arubans and Dutch from
coming here until NH
is found, dead or alive.
Jug was asking for the US to pressure the Dutch govt. for help. If they've contacted Sen. Shelby, surely he'll make a few heavy phone calls. This has really opened up a can of worms for Aruba's island paradise image.
Mariaine Croes is a waste of time.
With all her jibberish.
I disagree...
I am not taken up for the VDS, but none of that proves that anyone is guilty. It could be that PVDS and Joran was on the defensive due to this group of people showing up at their house at 3 a.m. in the morning.
Did you hear Jug say that he stood off while there was a confrontation between PVDS and 3 of Jugs friends.
I think that I would be somewhat thrown off myself. I hope that Aruba LE are looking at others as well.
Aruba isn't going to
force the Twitty's to leave.
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