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Natalee Holloway - Case Discussion Extended Thread 3
Link to previous thread ^ | 6/23/05 | freepers

Posted on 06/23/2005 10:44:51 AM PDT by stlnative

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To: the Deejay
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,159128,00.html

Friday, June 10, 2005

The Dutch suspect is Joran Andreas Petrus Van Der Sloot, a 17-year-old student at Aruba International School. The Surinamese brothers are Satish Kalpoe, 18, and 21-year-old Deepak Kalpoe. They are the sons of a local Aruban businessman.

Kock said his client, Satish Kalpoe, and his brother told police they saw a black security guard approach Holloway in the parking lot in front of the hotel lobby before they drove off.

"That's why [two former security guards] were detained," Kock told the AP.

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The Surinamese brothers in custody are Satish Kalpoe, born July 30, 1986, and Deepak Kalpoe, born Oct. 6, 1983. They are the sons of a local Aruban business man.

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http://www.misfitting.com/cgi-bin/mt-comments.cgi?entry_id=910

GVS - Giovanni takes us to the home of 2 of the suspects Giovanni - Deepak & Satish live here - w/their parents. Upper middle class - what school they go to says a lot about the family. (school explanation) expensive. Joran went to school w/Deepak. I've heaerd the mother is very sad - she feels the sons have nothing to do w/the case. Can't confirm if they hired lawyers or if they were assigned. I would guess Joran & Deepak connection is closer because they meet every day in school. (internet cafe) Deepak runs things here. Steve Croes used to come here to chat or send messages, this is where he met Deepak. It's safe to assume Joran was alwyas on the internet w/all his websites.

1,861 posted on 06/25/2005 5:16:14 PM PDT by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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To: Lizarde

Ack! Yup, I keep running those two nights together. Thanks.


1,862 posted on 06/25/2005 5:17:07 PM PDT by monkeywrench (Deut. 27:17 Cursed be he that removeth his neighbor's landmark)
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To: Lizarde

I believe you are correct.


1,863 posted on 06/25/2005 5:17:57 PM PDT by presently no screen name
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To: the Deejay
Thanks for that very interesting bit of info. Very strange case, DJ..very strange.

sw

1,864 posted on 06/25/2005 5:19:36 PM PDT by spectre (Spectre's wife)
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To: Lizarde
Doesn't anyone in that crowd ever sleep or have regular day/night hours? It appears this is their way of life every single day. Kids are in school but go out honky tonkin' in the A.M. hours. jeeeezzzz...... PVDS goes to ATM for ca$h at 3 A.M. ?? Probably normal for him. Never mind going at say, 3 P.M.
1,865 posted on 06/25/2005 5:19:47 PM PDT by the Deejay (THE LADY DEEJAY)
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To: spectre

You said it. Only thing is,
if the missing anchor, rope,
and tape turn out to be
more than rumor......we
may have our answer as
to her whereabouts.


1,866 posted on 06/25/2005 5:21:19 PM PDT by the Deejay (THE LADY DEEJAY)
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To: Lizarde

What if pvds was despositing money into the atm, instead of withdrawing it? Kidnap money? The Twittys hadn't shown up yet, and he may have felt he could get away with this whole thing at the time.


1,867 posted on 06/25/2005 5:22:19 PM PDT by monkeywrench (Deut. 27:17 Cursed be he that removeth his neighbor's landmark)
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To: brigette
Timeline compiled by brigette

Bump!!

1,868 posted on 06/25/2005 5:23:35 PM PDT by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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ping


1,869 posted on 06/25/2005 5:24:02 PM PDT by Mama25
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To: Howlin; the Deejay

Deepak is the older of the 2. I made a special note of it the other night when listening to their mother's interview.

Did it mnemonically, D comes before S in the alphabet, for their names.


1,870 posted on 06/25/2005 5:25:03 PM PDT by texasbluebell
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To: All; maggiefluffs; TexKat; Howlin

Let's work on a timeline (SLOWLY) together - Give me any information you have up until 12:00 am on Monday (don't give me anything yet after 12:00am on Monday just yet...)

Here is how I am doing it...

Timeline
This information is from several sources that are all unconfirmed.
Everything is unconfirmed until the Police in Aruba start telling us or media what is true and what is not true.

TIME DATE

EVENT

Early Evening? 6/29/05 Sunday Natalee meets Joran for the first time in the Holiday Inn Casino sometime during the evening.
PVDS is as at the same casino. It is unknown if Natalee met PVDS while she was there.
PVDS claims he left the casino (leaving Joran there) to go home.

(Some of her friends say this is the first time Natalee met JVDS - media and some of her other friends say she met him for the first time the day before (Saturday) at the Holiday Inn Casino).

Natalee tells Joran that tonight is her last night in Aruba and that she will be at Carlos N' Charlies Bar later that evening and if Joran will be there later in the evening.
Early Evening? 6/29/05 Sunday Joran call Deepak while Deepak is working - He asks Deepak if he wants to go to Carlos N' Charlies tonight after her gets off work. Deepak agrees.
10:30 pm 6/29/05 Sunday Deepak gets off work at about 10:30 pm (Satish picks up Deepak in Deepak's car - Deepak never drives his car to work per what his mother says) - he goes home to "fix" something and to take a bath. It is unknown were Joran or Natalee is at this time.
11:00 pm 6/29/05 Sunday Joran's father (PVDS) picks up Joran at McDonald's at 11:00 pm
They return back to the VDS home.
12:10 am 6/30/05 Monday Deepak and Satish drive to Joran's home in Deepak's Silver 4 door Honda -
They arrive at about 12:10 am - They hang around Joran's house for about 15 minute before leaving for Carlos N' Charlies at about 12:25 am. Joran sneaks out off the VDS property.
Joran's mother was away in Holland and most likely had Joran's 2 younger brothers with her.
12:30 am 6/30/05 Monday They all 3 arrive at Carlos N' Charlies at about 12:30 am. Natalee is already at the bar with some classmates. Note: Joran sneaked out of the house with the 2 brothers.
     
     
     
     

1,871 posted on 06/25/2005 5:25:17 PM PDT by stlnative (BUT DON'T ASK ME TO BACK THAT UP OR CONFIRM IT)
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To: monkeywrench
So, Beth arrives at about 3:00 am at the vds and about 3:00 pvds is at atm. She must've gotten there just after he returned.

Beth arrives at VDS at approximately 3 a.m. on 5/31

PDVS is rumored to be at atm at 3 a.m. 5/30.

1,872 posted on 06/25/2005 5:26:26 PM PDT by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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To: TexKat

Joran went to school w/Deepak



Thanks for clearing that up for me anyway. I thought it was Satish, almost 19 went to school w/17/18 year old Joran. And Deepak (21) has a full-time job.


1,873 posted on 06/25/2005 5:27:02 PM PDT by presently no screen name
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To: TexKat

Yes, you're right about their ages!


1,874 posted on 06/25/2005 5:28:46 PM PDT by texasbluebell
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To: TexKat

Re: their ages, I should say, you're right about their birth order.


1,875 posted on 06/25/2005 5:29:55 PM PDT by texasbluebell
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To: cajungirl

That's the way I remembered their birth order too, alphabetically.


1,877 posted on 06/25/2005 5:32:27 PM PDT by texasbluebell
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To: brigette
In your timeline you state Natalee meets Joran for the first time in the Holiday Inn Casino sometime during the evening.

Not so, According to Edward Kissel, Birmingham student that was on O'Reilly, Joran was in the company of Natalee and her friends at various locations for a couple of days prior to 5/29.

1,879 posted on 06/25/2005 5:33:34 PM PDT by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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To: TexKat
Joran was in the company of Natalee and her friends at various locations for a couple of days prior to 5/29.

Yes. Unrefuted so far.

1,880 posted on 06/25/2005 5:35:26 PM PDT by the Deejay (THE LADY DEEJAY)
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