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To: bmweezer

He has adopted the language of VICTIM very well.


22 posted on 06/22/2005 11:43:34 AM PDT by Lorianne
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To: Lorianne
He has adopted the language of VICTIM very well.

Definitely. Poor little sissy likely wants to get a piece of the Victim Industry pie. Until I start hearing grievances like "why can't I get in a barfight like my grandfather could without worrying about being sent to jail or knifed by a coward?" I'm only going to read these things for comic relief.

"I'm the victim! Gotta love me!" is the cry of the Sensitive New Age Guy fishing for affirmation. Here's a passage from a great satirical take on Men's Support Groups, and indeed the whole therapeutic victim industry:

Kevin Bain's just about vivisecting his poor bear out of mortified frustration. He seems deeply into his Infant persona now, and Hal rather hopes these guys have procedures for getting Bain at least back to sixteen before he has to try to drive home. At some point a timpani has gotten involved in the CD's music, and a rather saucy cornet, and the music's finally started moving a little, toward what's either a climax or the end of the disk.

By now various men in the group have started crying out to Kevin Bain that his Inner Infant wasn't getting its needs met, that sitting there passively asking for nurture to get up and come to him wasn't getting the needs met, that Kevin owed it to his Inner Infant to come up with some sort of active way to meet the Infant's needs. Somebody shouted out `Honor that Infant!' Somebody else called `Meet those needs!' Hal is mentally strolling down the Appian Way in bright Eurosunlight, eating a cannoli, twirling his Dunlop racquets by the throats like six-shooters, enjoying the sunshine and cranial silence and a normal salivary flow.

Pretty soon the men's supportive exhortations have distilled into everybody in the room except Harv, Jim and Hal chanting `Meet Those Needs! Meet Those Needs!' in the same male-crowd-exhortative meter as `Hold That Line!' or `Block That Kick!'

David Foster Wallace, Infinite Jest


37 posted on 06/22/2005 12:48:54 PM PDT by Dumb_Ox (Be not Afraid. "Perfect love drives out fear.")
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To: Lorianne

I think that you misunderstand this clearly. If a man stands up for himself he isn't a victim. Why shouldn't men stand up for themselves? The federal gov has no right to institute affirmative action against us. There's no reason men should not be treated equally. If we're being wronged, we should fight back.


54 posted on 06/22/2005 5:11:40 PM PDT by gdogdaily
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