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And they once called homosexuality a mental disorder. I wonder which time they were right? I guess we will each have to decide for ourselves unless they can show which replicable experiements they ran to scientifically prove that homosexuality is not a mental disorder.


2 posted on 06/21/2005 5:53:49 PM PDT by JLS
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Oh, did you not know? These people are really magicians (disguised as psychiatrists) who can pull rabbits out of a hat, at will.
I was under the impression they know it is a mental disorder, but they have a tendency to be man pleasers, especially to the men who offer them big bucks and offer them research grants. They would declare serial murder normal if it meant getting money, money and more money..............
13 posted on 06/21/2005 6:18:18 PM PDT by clearsight
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I was minoring in psych in college when they started to 'redefine' such issues as whether or not homosexuality should be a disorder anymore. My study material defined it thusly but we were told, and had many discussions about it, that they would be 'changing' their position. I'm guessing there was some pressure. But at the time, stories and rumors of methods used by Kinsey and things redefined as normal by him started to emerge. Horrible stories, including his 'research' on molested children, which often meant he quietly observed and recorded data while abuse continued. Sickening. Yet we were warned that people were coming back around to him. And sure enough, now he's a hero, he's saved our nation. Barf. I'm guessing it will be something like that. It already is, the once disorder of homosexuality is now a norm. In a generation or 2, a new group of psych students will likely be studying the effects of the 'normalizing' of homosexuality and the APA (if it still exists) endorsement of gay marriage. And probably analyzing why it did not work. As many know, there did exist data that showed how homosexuality could have 'turned up' in individuals, genetic and behavioral, how it was 'disordered' from the norm, though not necessarily a 'disease', the defining aspects of disease went even further. But to prove, after that, that those studies were flawed? I don't know how they actually 'proved' it, or even if they cared to bother to justify their dramatic change in position, or even if they cared why it was necessary to prove previous studies were wrong.


16 posted on 06/21/2005 6:30:08 PM PDT by fortunecookie
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And they once called homosexuality a mental disorder.

Actually, as I recall, being queer was once classed as a mental disease. Then the yahoos at the APA decided it was not. And the rest has been downhill.

18 posted on 06/21/2005 6:52:32 PM PDT by upchuck (If our nation be destroyed, it would be from the judiciary." ~ Thomas Jefferson)
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When I was but a tad in the Mental Health industry, the Diagnostics & Statistics manual listed homosexuality as a Character Disorder. That was in 1965. Over the years it was ignored and finally accepted as a "live choice". Using "normal" as a milestone, one must consider whether or not this condition is pathological, genetic, attention getting or, a result of the feminist castration revolution.

Just so you know. I have studied the Communist Manifesto as well as the Federalist. Our Constitution is being interpreted by marxists and that has to stop.


22 posted on 06/21/2005 7:25:05 PM PDT by BerryessaJim (Straight eyes on "queer" guys.)
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