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To: No Surrender No Retreat
That the FBI is better qualified (in a lot of ways) to investigate a missing person/ presumed kidnapped & murdered case is not the point. The point is jurisdiction. The point is that when a US citizen leaves US soil, they also leave US legal jurisdiction. That is, or should be, understood.

That the Arubans would be reluctant to accept help from the FBI is understandable. We agree that the Bureau has been politicized in the past. Perceptions die hard. And the ongoing gum-flapping about Gitmo & people like Durbin citing e-mails from an alleged FBI source does not help. It sends a message that the FBI cannot be trusted to keep their mouths shut aside from how trivial the 'abuse', even if true, is perceived by Arubans in consideration of their investigative & interrogative methods.

I'll wager that no investigation is 100% perfect. As you said, we don't know what the Arubans are doing right. It's fair to say that they do things 'differently'. Tentatively, I'm surmising that their emphasis is on interrogation and are considerably less hamstrung by rights of the accused. Conversely, forensics plays a larger role in US investigations. In any case, my opinion is that the Arubans are highly motivated to solve the case, for real. Aside from the negative effect on tourism, I can't imagine that they'd be comfortable knowing a presumed killer was at large on their small island.

As to my qualifications, I'd guess that I'm at least as qualified as about 90% of the posters on this thread. Mysteries fascinate me--wish I had pursued investigation/ analysis as an occupation.

You are also speculating that everything is everything.

That is the nature of the Speculation Beast. In the absence of known-knowns, just about anything is possible.

2,078 posted on 06/23/2005 10:09:09 AM PDT by elli1
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To: elli1

Excellent response Elli1. Welcome to (Club Spec)

I like your candor and thorough analysis of the present situation in Aruba. I do not know your profession, but I am confident you are one of the best in that career.

I think Durbin needs to go handle this investigation. Rest assured the Hollways would suddenly become the perps per Chief Durbin. Thanks for that superb response. NSNR


2,088 posted on 06/23/2005 10:20:45 AM PDT by No Surrender No Retreat
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To: elli1

you say, "just about anything is possible"........

found this on www.scaredmonkeys and found it interesting....far out, but interesting. Be sure to go to bottom of page to see the author's,
"Conclusions: Where is Natalee?"

http://www.revelation13.net/KingJames2c.html


2,101 posted on 06/23/2005 10:36:10 AM PDT by toldyou
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To: elli1

Your post is reasonable, but how would the ordinary Aruban act if Joran had been seen with their daughter, and then she disappeared? The reaction of the two security guards' families was very telling. The girl friend of one was hysterical, screaming, all but tearing her hair and renting her clothes. You could hardly decipher one word in ten, but her meaning was clear. She felt he'd been picked on because he was poor and black, (the old colonial pecking order alive and well). I would think any Aruban parent would be aggressive and demanding to know where his daughter was and why the cops weren't making progress.


2,144 posted on 06/23/2005 11:06:59 AM PDT by hershey
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