[PBRSTREETGANG]

We cannot get him out of bed in the morning to go to school...

That's because he's out at the bars and casinos until 3 AM.

If there would have been anything of that, I would have noticed.

No offense, but again if he's out at the bars and the casinos regularly until 3 AM, she has no idea what he's up to. He may not use drugs because he considers himself an athlete, but she'd have absolutely no way of knowing given the lifestyle he's been allowed.

[demkicker]

Thank you for stating the obvious. Mamma sloot discredited herself by making those absurd remarks about Joran. She undoubtedly thought going on t.v. would be in her son's best interest. She only succeeded in calling attention to how little she knows about her own son, what he does, when and where he does it!

It was a desperate and bad move on mamma's part, IMO.

[No Surrender No Retreat]

This is a case of good parental supervision on part of the VDS's. NSNR