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To: Auntie Dem
"we should let the illegals cheat us too? "

No one said that. All that has been said is that taxes are not voluntary. Illegals and their employers are legally obligated to pay taxes just like everyone else.

The misunderstanding comes from the anti-illegals who continuously repeat the lie the "illegals don't pay taxes".

There are some not very well educated people who think that illegals are not legally required to pay taxes.

By the way, illegals are also subject to the military draft when it is active.

115 posted on 06/18/2005 10:35:51 AM PDT by bayourod (HEADS UP to all politicians: Sunday is Juneteenth. Attend as many events as possible)
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To: bayourod; Jeff Head
"This amendment which I have offered is simply declaratory of what I regard as the law of the land already, that every person born within the limits of the United States, and subject to their jurisdiction, is by virtue of natural law and national law a citizen of the United States. This will not, of course, include persons born in the United States who are foreigners, aliens, who belong to the families of ambassadors or foreign ministers accredited to the Government of the United States, but will include every other class of persons. It settles the great question of citizenship and removes all doubt as to what persons are or are not citizens of the United States. This has long been a great desideratum in the jurisprudence and legislation of this country.[1]

"It is clear the framers of the Fourteenth Amendment had no intention of freely giving away American citizenship to just anyone simply because they may have been born on American soil, something our courts have wrongfully assumed..."

40 lodwick

There are many sources out there that quote Senator Jacob Howard, and what he intended with the 14th ammendment.

118 posted on 06/18/2005 10:45:07 AM PDT by monkeywrench (Deut. 27:17 Cursed be he that removeth his neighbor's landmark)
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To: bayourod

"By the way, illegals are also subject to the military draft when it is active."

Im sure theyd serve if drafted.


119 posted on 06/18/2005 10:45:39 AM PDT by mthom
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To: bayourod
The misunderstanding comes from the anti-illegals who continuously repeat the lie the "illegals don't pay taxes".

The lie is your statement.

The fact is illegals don't pay taxes, or at least their evasion is grossly disproportionate to their representation in the "Taxpayer" population. IOW, if, for example, illegals represent 3% of the U.S population, they are responsible for 30% of tax fraud. (Those are illustrative numbers, I do not know the actual percentages--but then who does?).

You portray those against illegal immigration as "anti-illegal", but wouldn't "Pro-Law" be more accurate?

165 posted on 06/20/2005 1:03:32 PM PDT by Auntie Dem (Hey! Hey! Ho! Ho! Terrorist lovers gotta go!)
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