Posted on 06/17/2005 9:18:36 PM PDT by bayourod
All that construction going on in the fastest-growing city in the U.S. Can't have expensive labor, ya know?/
Oh...you mean illegal aliens!
Nevada's legislature has voted more of the largess of her legal citizens to support illegal aliens, ensuring that more will flock there, further indebting the lawful citizens of the state. Hopefully, the lawful citizens of the state will have good sense enough to route these vipers out of their state capital!
For once, at least just once, I would like some cold hard facts that illegals are paying taxes. And I mean federal income tax, not gas tax or sales tax. How does the Progressive Leadership Alliance know that illegals are paying income tax when they don't even know if I am.
Not only construction, but hotel and restaurant workers.
In addition, Congress should immediately vote a change in the Law that any child born to an illegal alien on our shores is not granted citizenship but is deported with their parent(s) back to their country of origin.
How can you say one group should be deported simply because they are illegal, and then say that the law should be changed to make native born citizens illegal and call for them to be deported?
The Fourteenth Amendment (that's part of the U.S. Constitution) reads in part:
"All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States "
Instead of changing the Constitution to make one group illegal, why not just change a statute to make the other group legal? I think there may be something about "illegal" that you don't understand.
Taxes are not voluntary. Illegal immigrants have to pay them just like everyone else.
Employers who fail to withhold IRS taxes go to prison regularly. Employers who deduct less labor costs than standard for their business category get audited.
That does not mean I am against immigration...far from it. It just means that there must be an identifiable legal process and we must enforce it. It also means that we need to gain control of our borders, which is the only sane thing to do in this error of terror and warfare.
Now, I have only one issue with the 14th amendment. I do not believe it was ever intended to be a free ride for people breaking the law to get here just to take advantage of it. That needs, IMHO, to be rectified and the "law" the congress passed would have to take the form of a constitutional amendment that the people of the various states would vote on.
...and I'll bet you, if it were ever passed on to the states for ratification, it would pass.
No misunderstanding whatsoeve on my part there...just an opinion on how to address what, in my view, is a serious probblem...illegal aliens.
Presumably this means illegal immigrants, I get so ticked off at the way the media lumps all immigrants together.
The federal prisons are full of tax evaders.
Tax evaders are one thing, employers in prison for not paying taxes on illegal aliens was our point of controversy and your last statement doesn't back up your claim.
Those that left Cal to go to the deserts of Nevada, my sympathies.
The solution is obviously simple; just change the law to legalize the ones who are illegal.
The "what don't you understand about illegal" arguments will never convince anyone except those seeking validation of their beliefs.
I agree. The 14th amendment made sense when mass (legal) immigration was taking place (mostly) from europe in an age when birth certs and other docs were lost, unavailable or maybe never issued in the countries of origin. Fast forward to today and we get the amazing images of women in labor lurching across the bridge to Laredo or similar so their baby can be born on US soil. It should be changed to say citizens (only) or citizens and the children of non-citizens legally present or something like that i.e. children of green card holders would be covered.
Employers who fail to make witholding payments are tax evaders.
I'll agree to that statement. However, in referring to failure to pay taxes from employers of illegal aliens, you said that the prisons are full of them. Proof?
The only answer is to have a workable set of legal imigration laws, and then enforce them. That means deporting the illegals and coming down on the people who employ them.
And, OBTW, I never said anything about "what you don't understand about illegals"...if I remember correctly in fact, in this discussion it was you that indicated to me that I did not understand illegal.
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