Here's another one of the VDS father: http://album.pancayente.com/displayimage.php?album=19&pos=25
I wonder who those 2 kids are?
They are Joran's younger brothers
I think those are his kids. In the pic. The older one is definitely his and the younger probably. I saw the pics of the younger one on Tickle site. This is an old pic it seems, maybe three or so years.