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Congratulations Michael, now please, get help
Chicago Sun-Times ^ | June 14, 2005

Posted on 06/14/2005 7:32:32 AM PDT by Asphalt

Michael Jackson's fans were cheering and hugging each other Monday outside the courtroom where he was acquitted on all counts in his child molestation case. But it was impossible for us to get excited over the verdict. You could feel relief that this case was over and the 46-year-old "King of Pop" had gotten his day in court, but no number of "not guilty" pronouncements could erase the taint of the "lifestyle" choices that got him into trouble.

As Jackson was driven away in a funereal black vehicle, under the gaze of a now standard-issue helicopter camera, we wondered how he will respond to being freed of accusations some experts were sure he would be convicted of and even those who thought otherwise acknowledged came dangerously close to criminal behavior. Will the owner and aging lost boy of Neverland continue to insist he is pure of heart and spirit, did nothing wrong in sleeping with underage boys and faces no greater challenge than being misunderstood? Or will he respond to his brush with years in prison by facing up to his psychological problems and seeking help for them?

In saying "the healing process must begin," Jesse Jackson may have been talking about recovering from the grueling trial and its coverage. But Michael Jackson has deeper personal issues to deal with -- including, possibly, being in a state of denial. His strange appearance at the courtroom in his pajamas, his stomping on the roof of his SUV, his mystery trips to the E.R. certainly did nothing to establish his stability.

He will live with the knowledge that he owes his freedom to the prosecution's haphazard case as much as his pleas of innocence or any skillful turns by the defense to support them. This was a case, built and rebuilt over a decade by Santa Barbara County District Attorney Thomas Sneddon, undone by prosecution witnesses seemingly hired by the defense. They included a young accuser who kept changing his story; the accuser's mother, who came off as a gold digger and, in allowing him to sleep in Jackson's bed, a derelict parent, and an ex-wife of Jackson's, Debbie Rowe, who was brought in by prosecutors to testify against him but spoke of what a wonderful father he was. This despite being involved in a custody battle with him.

In the end, even as this verdict is applauded for showing you're not guilty until proven so in this country, it will, for some, confirm the notion that celebrities get their way in the justice system. Will Jackson's biggest media moment since "Thriller" recharge his career, which was on an artistic and commercial decline before the molestation charges were raised? Perhaps if he stops blaming other people for his misfortunes and starts taking responsibility for them. But if he continues living in his fantasy world, any buzz from this trial will wear off as fast as cable news can find another scandal to obsess over.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; News/Current Events
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To: sinkspur

I addressed that earlier a couple of times. This is NOT the situation with Michael Jackson - in his case we are talking about a single middle aged man who sleeps regularly with young boys in the same bed who are unrelated to him. This is not remotely similar to the case of a father who might sleep with his young son for whatever reason, or a couple of brothers who sleep together. There is nothing unusual or abnormal about that. However, I would say that any man like Jackson who admits to sleeping with young boys in the same bed that he is not related to, is a perv and a freak. That is highly abnormal behavior.


561 posted on 06/14/2005 6:07:24 PM PDT by blueblazes
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To: sinkspur

I don't see why you would consider that a bizarre statement - I think there is a continuum between what might be considered erotic to various people and what might be pornographic. Pornography is very graphic and has the specific and probably sole purpose of sexual titilation. Erotica might be sexually titilating but it can also have an artistic purpose. Thus, a collection in a book of pictures of old world nudes might be considered erotica for some people. The context in this case is that of an accused pedophile, and someone who openly admits he sleeps with young boys in his bed, who has a book like this which features pictures of boys in various poses and various degrees of undress. THe context is creepy. Hell, the pics I've seen from the pic are kind of creepy. what the book does is FETISHIZE young boys. I think that's what makes it erotica for pedophiles and what makes it creepy for most normal people.


562 posted on 06/14/2005 6:11:25 PM PDT by blueblazes
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To: American Butterfly
I will only if you go to hell first. How's that?

LOL!!! Hey, I was 17 once, too. I thought I knew everything then, too.

This is a forum for adults; remember that and act accordingly.

563 posted on 06/14/2005 6:44:46 PM PDT by stands2reason (It's 2005, and two wrongs still don't make a right.)
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To: blueblazes
Do you have a copy of "The Boy" in your home?

Nice. Arguing with logic too much for you?

564 posted on 06/14/2005 6:46:06 PM PDT by stands2reason (It's 2005, and two wrongs still don't make a right.)
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To: blueblazes; sinkspur
sinkspur and I disagree on this topic radically but apparently you don't like either of us. So where does that put you?

I don't not "like" him. (/schoolyard)

See, that's your problem, (other than saying the same thing over and over and over in your posts) to you, it's about the emotion.

I "like" to debate with logic and facts, like conservatives do, not emotion, like you do. I may disagree with sink occasionally, but at least he knows how to debate, and he knows it's not about "liking" people.

565 posted on 06/14/2005 6:53:26 PM PDT by stands2reason (It's 2005, and two wrongs still don't make a right.)
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To: stands2reason

You picked a fight with me. It was not the other way around. So, you my dear need to check your own maturity at the door.


566 posted on 06/14/2005 6:54:03 PM PDT by American Butterfly
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To: stands2reason

I notice you're not too good at answering questions. So how dog-eared is your copy of "The Boy?"


567 posted on 06/14/2005 6:58:16 PM PDT by blueblazes
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To: blueblazes
sinkspur and I disagree on this topic radically but apparently you don't like either of us. So where does that put you?

It's in the same condition of your kids after you burn them with cigarrettes.

Are you this lame to think you're "zinging" me with your tough questions? Seriously. Try logic. It's really effective.

568 posted on 06/14/2005 7:02:19 PM PDT by stands2reason (It's 2005, and two wrongs still don't make a right.)
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To: MizSterious

I missed this post first time around Miz, I love your comment about the Telemarketing calls. They should try to stay away from the Psychic Friends Network too.


569 posted on 06/14/2005 7:03:59 PM PDT by blueblazes
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To: stands2reason

Maybe you should demonstrate some "logic" to me and I'll get some idea of what you think it is. Right now all I see you calling logic is a rather sneering hostility.

By the way, what do you think of Michael Jackson stating publicly that he sleeps with little boys not related to him in the same bed? Is that okay with you?


570 posted on 06/14/2005 7:05:45 PM PDT by blueblazes
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To: American Butterfly

I noticed your viciousness in response to a post that wasn't callled for.



And I gave you some advice.

And you told me to "go to hell."

If I decided to be immature about it, you would have been reported to the mods and had your posting privileges revoked.


571 posted on 06/14/2005 7:06:52 PM PDT by stands2reason (It's 2005, and two wrongs still don't make a right.)
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To: stands2reason

What I have noticed about your posts this evening is that you have been constantly hostile and nasty in a way that seems uncalled for. I believe your remark to American Butterfly was to "Grow up". I don't know what that remark is supposed to mean or how it adds logically to this debate.


572 posted on 06/14/2005 7:09:25 PM PDT by blueblazes
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To: blueblazes

No it's not okay.

I think he's a pedophile.

The prosecution failed in the absolute worst way to prove its case.


573 posted on 06/14/2005 7:10:34 PM PDT by stands2reason (It's 2005, and two wrongs still don't make a right.)
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To: stands2reason

Okay, that's reasonable. I disagree with you about the trial, but I don't want to go over it again and again. Obviously you can read my earlier comments if you choose to.


574 posted on 06/14/2005 7:14:49 PM PDT by blueblazes
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To: blueblazes

What I have noticed about your posts is that you only argue from emotion.


NOT THAT IT'S ANY OF YOUR BUSINESS,
The "grow up" was in response to a post of Butterfly's where she implied that if she were on a jury, she'd let the guy who assaulted a poster's children get off --- just because she disagreed with the poster.

Is it okay if Butterfly acts nasty because she's on your side?


575 posted on 06/14/2005 7:15:34 PM PDT by stands2reason (It's 2005, and two wrongs still don't make a right.)
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To: stands2reason

I notice that you are consistently nasty and I don't know why that is. My last post to you was very civil. You've been nasty to pretty much everyone you've posted to for no apparent reason, regardless of their position on the topic. Sinkspur for example, disagrees with me radically. I don't like your blatant hostility so frankly I'm not responding to you again.


576 posted on 06/14/2005 7:31:07 PM PDT by blueblazes
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To: American Butterfly

Stands2reason is one of the nastiest posters I've seen on FR. Frankly I don't get him, he seems to hate everybody. I'm not answering him again. I suggest we ignore him.


577 posted on 06/14/2005 7:32:48 PM PDT by blueblazes
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To: All

I am heading off to bed, good night all.


578 posted on 06/14/2005 7:37:49 PM PDT by blueblazes
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To: blueblazes

You asked how dogeared my gayboy porn was, and I'm the nasty one?!?!? I guess it's okay for you to say that, though. Right?

I noticed you have no problem with Butterfly's comments.

I'm not surprised you're bugging out. I finally asked you a question you didn't want to answer.


579 posted on 06/14/2005 7:38:44 PM PDT by stands2reason (It's 2005, and two wrongs still don't make a right.)
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To: blueblazes

I'm female, like you.

And I never called you a name.

YOU started with the namecalling, remember that.


580 posted on 06/14/2005 7:40:27 PM PDT by stands2reason (It's 2005, and two wrongs still don't make a right.)
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