When someone begins spreading doom and gloom right out of the gate as a poster, red flags go up. Plus you swallow all the lib media has to say and accept it as gospel, another red flag. Lastly your plaintive wail of "Why can't we have an honest discussion...", sounds suspiciously like "Why can't we all just get along"
I am a 10 year veteran of discussion forums and I know a lib when I see, or rather read one's words.
aahhh.....I've been at DU and believe most FReepers have at one time or another just to lurk and laugh.
...and you never have? Hmmm.
If you lived through the media efforts in Vietnam, then you sure aren't sounding like it...
IT IS the media efforts that are hurting President Bush, and the military's job in the WOT...
The media and the gutless Congresscritters back in the Vietnam era, combined to make the US military look like wimps, exiting Vietnam like they did...
And NOW, those same media and dems are doing the same thing to this WAR and to THIS PRESIDENT...
And, if supposed President Bush backers, like you say you are, swallow the negative propaganda, then YOU are guilty of hurting the efforts, not President Bush...