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To: orionblamblam

I said I was only lurking, but I can't resist giving my opinion of the matter. To me, "creationism" is virtually synonymous with being anti-evolution -- and in many cases (but not all) being anti-science and anti-reason too. Those who find the theory of evolution to be persuasive, regardless of their theism or non-theism, aren't "creationists" as I would define the term. Most scientists are probably theistic evolutionists, and I don't consider them to be creationists. Similarly, many religious people, who truly believe that God created the universe, have no problem with evolution. I don't consider them "creationists" either. Creationist applies only to the whack-jobs like Gish, Morris, Ham, and of course -- the lovely Kathy Martin.


54 posted on 06/11/2005 8:05:16 AM PDT by PatrickHenry (Felix, qui potuit rerum cognoscere causas. The List-O-Links is at my homepage.)
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To: PatrickHenry
I said I was only lurking, but I can't resist giving my opinion of the matter. To me, "creationism" is virtually synonymous with being anti-evolution -- and in many cases (but not all) being anti-science and anti-reason too. Those who find the theory of evolution to be persuasive, regardless of their theism or non-theism, aren't "creationists" as I would define the term. Most scientists are probably theistic evolutionists, and I don't consider them to be creationists. Similarly, many religious people, who truly believe that God created the universe, have no problem with evolution.

It is simple, macro-evolution in regards to mankind's current condition is diametrical opposed to the Bible.

For us to be part of your fan-club, we would have to disregard much of our Holy Book. Most are not willing to do that on the whim of the current scientific understandings.

57 posted on 06/11/2005 8:11:14 AM PDT by bondserv (Creation sings a song of praise, Declaring the wonders of Your ways †)
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To: PatrickHenry
To me, "creationism" is virtually synonymous with being anti-evolution -- and in many cases (but not all) being anti-science and anti-reason too.

You know, I don't really mind when you folks pit us against evolution ("anti-evlution") and science ("anti-science") but when you pit us against reason (anti-reason) it really irks me.

Science, like philosophy and theology, is based upon a set of axioms which are unproveable, and all you can really say is that your observations are consistent with those axioms. In fact all three can say that equally.

Before you get on your soapbox and insinuate that those who don't believe as you do are inherently stupid, you might, at the very least, want to present a Unified Field Theory. That would be a good place to start.

Until then, all you are doing is spouting noise.

70 posted on 06/11/2005 9:37:35 AM PDT by csense
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