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To: mdmathis6
Thank you for your reply!

Do you mean sent me a message to where/when earth was being formed from the Inception(where/when God is standing)? I was asking concerning the observations from God's point of view or from his inception point...what would I have observed from there?

That is why I refer to the "inception" space/time coordinates. God is not corporeal, He doesn't exist "in" space/time and yet He transcends space/time. Space/time is created as the universe expands.

God is the only possible candidate for the uncaused cause of a beginning. All cosmologies require a beginning because, at the root, they invoke geometry.

With this understanding, looking at Genesis 1-3, it becomes rather apparant to me that God alone is the observer and that He is relating "Day" from the Creation perspective to "day" from a creature perspective, i.e. on earth.

Therefore, the anchor for "time" must be the inception space/time coordinates - when real time began in this universe.

The point was that the models that predicted a slow cooling of granite over millions of years couldn't account for this iridescent light pattern found in the obsidian flakes in side of granite...it was almost as if the earth was flash made "old" and the shiniy iridescense of granite's obsidian was really a curious photo graph of such an instataneous "creation"...

That was the assertion in the original "tiny mystery" testimony which has since been challenged: Institute for Creation Research

167 posted on 06/14/2005 7:59:53 AM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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168 posted on 06/14/2005 8:10:15 AM PDT by dread78645 (Sorry Mr. Franklin, We couldn't keep it.)
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To: Alamo-Girl

"That was the assertion in the original "tiny mystery" testimony which has since been challenged: Institute for Creation Research"


Challenging assertions scientifically does not mean refutation, just means you have a falsifiable arguement in need of more definitive data. And thanks.. it was polonium I was thinking of not Iridium.


169 posted on 06/14/2005 10:22:22 AM PDT by mdmathis6 (Even when a dog discovers he is barking up a wrong tree, he can still take a leak on it!)
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To: Alamo-Girl

"With this understanding, looking at Genesis 1-3, it becomes rather apparant to me that God alone is the observer and that He is relating "Day" from the Creation perspective to "day" from a creature perspective, i.e. on earth."

It explains why the moon and sun seem to have been made on the 4th day with the stars just beginning to appear as well...even though you have the beginnings of plant life on the third day. The photons from other suns would just be reaching our solars system at about that time taking into account the time dilation effects that you describe...millions of years passing by in a flash...depending ones perspective.
Moses of course though he could not see God's face("no man could and live"), who being hidden and protected in the cleft of the rock(a wonderful hymn by the way), had the perspective of seeing God's "hinder parts", in a sense was able to see "where God had been"...Moses wrote his 5 books including Genesis based on his conversations with God and of the revelatory nature of being in God's "TIMELESS" presence...so he was able to "see" in a sense what God saw as God ordered creation into being! This "seeing" of course was only in the limited human sense. Moses was only a man after all so he could only write what he saw ...God's spirit would have to translate what Moses saw into the spiritual knowledge that resides in every believer's heart!


171 posted on 06/14/2005 10:48:16 AM PDT by mdmathis6 (Even when a dog discovers he is barking up a wrong tree, he can still take a leak on it!)
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