Nothing rhetorical about it. I assume, since you are implying we are all liars, that you would be able to enumerate the lies easily. The only thing I have heard is that we are snake oil salesmen. Prey bless us with an example.
I have not used the term "lies", because I am willing to give the benefit of the doubt that many of the devotees are deluded and may believe what they say. Just because they may believe what they say does not however, make it true, or make it gold instead of BS.
I've posted a number of these previously. Here, I'll give you one example: pigdog is under the delusion that the FT is going to be passed into law just as its devotees have cast it in their proposal, without the amendments or compromises that are part of the legislative process. He argues this point with unshakeable Faith, and cannot give it up -- but it is BS.
The rest of the world knows that, in the unlikely event that FT were ever passed as a law, it would look very different from its initial form in HR25.