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To: EternalVigilance

Really, a ridiculous assertion

Of the taxes we pay, who gets the majority of any money...

The federal government via the income tax. So, what you propose is to eliminate the income tax, and institute a national sales tax, and if a state opts out it, they don't get revenue.

Well, let's follow this line of reasoning, all taxes are sales tax, there are no income taxes, estate taxes, et al, all sales.

So, let's suppose a state, in seeing this makes the decision, I can impose this tax burden, be eligible for federal money, but I have to give a cut to the federal government, or... I can impose the same burden but not give it to the feds, I will have enough money to pay for everything in state, I won't need federal money.


549 posted on 06/11/2005 3:26:14 PM PDT by AzaleaCity5691 (Farragut got lucky, if we had been on our game, we would have blasted him off Dauphin Island)
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To: AzaleaCity5691
and if a state opts out it

No state can opt out, and in this day and age, none is even remotely going to try.

As I said before, that makes the rest of what you're saying not worth the time it takes to talk about it.

550 posted on 06/11/2005 3:33:22 PM PDT by EternalVigilance ("Quality of life": Another name for the slippery slope into barbarism...)
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To: AzaleaCity5691

... I can impose the same burden but not give it to the feds, I will have enough money to pay for everything in state, I won't need federal money.

Wouldn't make a gnats worth of difference, as the U.S. Treasury would just set up shop in the state and collect the tax directly from the retailers, inplace of the state, as is provided for in the legislatation in any state that decides it's going its own direction.

Bottomline, you are over looking a big factor in all this. Taxation by the national government is not dependant upon what any state does or wants to do, it will happen regardless.

Federalist #34:

 

Federalist #39:

 

Anti-Federalist Papers #3 NEW CONSTITUTION CREATES A NATIONAL GOVERNMENT;

There are but two modes by which men are connected in society, the one which operates on individuals, this always has been, and ought still to be called, national government; the other which binds States and governments together (not corporations, for there is no considerable nation on earth, despotic, monarchical, or republican, that does not contain many subordinate corporations with various constitutions) this last has heretofore been denominated a league or confederacy. The term federalists is therefore improperly applied to themselves, by the friends and supporters of the proposed constitution.

Federalist #45:

 

The states have the opportunity to act a agent in administering the NRST and receive compensation for doing so if they choose to exercise that option. If they opt out of it, or default in the responsibilities they contract to by agreement with the Treasury, then the U.S. Treasury has the authority necessary to collect NRST from businesses completely separately from whatever a state does.

551 posted on 06/11/2005 3:37:12 PM PDT by ancient_geezer (Don't reform it, Replace it!!)
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