Posted on 06/10/2005 11:13:37 AM PDT by Always Right
Amen!
You talking about honesty is like Bill Clinton talking about fidelity and chastity...or honesty...
And the laughter is right back atcha' pittipat. Wrong is wrong (unless, of course, you're Always Righht).
Since you think it's "neat" to use the incorrect number we'll just to have to point out from time to time why you do it.
While you're at it pittipat, you might read the bill as well as the economic data on the FairTax website since you've never done either.
In the bill you'll notice the t-i number is specified as 23% and that's not an estimate but a specific number in the bill.
Well, asking a bunch of legislators to vote for something that is very much against their self-interest is a very difficult task. One needs to either gain tremendous leverage over them, or try a different path. I feel that the Executive and Legislative Branches need to tell the Judiciary to stuff it when they come up with their outrageous 'decisions'. That would make a good start. As far as leverage goes, currently most Reps have safe seats, so that would have to change -- by de-gerrymandering districts via new rules limiting the length of perimeter a district could have compared with its square-root area, perhaps.
Dale Jorgenson's analysis(not assumption) is rooted the relationships of emirically measured changes in production and prices, in regard to changes in tax policy.What's "emirically measured changes"?
Thass no joke, you've been talkin' to my wife again. Told you not to ...
If you'd like to slather snake oil all over yourself, use the lead-in to this thread as it is overflowing with it. Then, too, you don't do so bad yourself.
I have been in business since I was 17, That first business I started with a loan from my parents and within ten months I was making over 1k a week. (That was in 1977.)
Over the past 28 Years I have started and sold several succesful businesses including an Teen Nightclub, a Furniture/Electronics store, and a local TV/Advertising Business. I have worked in all facets of those businesses from advertising, purchasing, sales, delivery and management. I even produced, directed and stared in most of the TV and Radio advertisement.
Currently I am in business with my family in Flooring and Real Estate (Family owned S Corp) plus I have transitioned a small hobby shop into a very successful online business.
Business Schooling: None (unless you count the few Real Estate Classes I took in preparation to take the test to become an agent. I never took the test.)
We live a very laid back lifestyle and could easily stop (not sell just close down all our businesses) and not have a care in the world as far as money goes. Due to the amount of real estate and investments we have accrued over the years by investing our profits.
I can say with a good bit of certainty I know how business works, being I have done about every job associated with running a business. I learned the ins and outs of business from some very successful people at a young age, and I continue to learn to this very day.
Ah, pittipat ... wait and see! The government WILL pass it as soon as they realize the many economic benefits and that it is what the grasroots voters want.
You'll find that once the people understand it, most with more than half a brain will be for it.
After all, you're 'Always Right'! Right? Even when you're wrong....You've just described every FairTax supporter ever.
I can read just fine,nightie. And what I read merely illustrates your spinmeistership.
I'll remind you of that when the bill (not "proposal") passes in pretty much its currect form.
That will no doubt shock you to tears, pittipat.
Since you've never read the bill, though, it doesn't argue too well for your powers of prognostication since you don't know what's in it - but maybe you have the "perfect foresight" that nightie was trying to ridicule earlier.
That's one man's opinion. Snake oil?
Here's my opinion: The Fair Tax website is thorough, researched, backed up, and full of information. It couldn't be more honest and up front. But the SQL's around here would have us believe differently.
Zell Miller is a big proponent of the fair tax. Think he's a snake oil salesman?
Really, pittipat, that wasn't a prayer (though maybe it should have been ... one of thankfulness).
Well, I'm quite impressed, but also surprised and puzzled because your comments indicated to me a naivity about pricing that seemed to go with little business experience.
I ran a $25M business where decisions on product differentiation and pricing were very important. It seems to me that we should both know how business operates.
Tax prognostications and now political analysis all wrapped into one fuzzball. That's great.
You don't think the politician's "self-interest" includes getting re-elected, then??? They all have such safe seats they can just ignore voters??? Got news for you pitipat.
You do that. I'll be shocked, but won't cry -- at that point, anyway. I will also admit that I was wrong! Will you do the same when Congress passes a very-different Tax Reform Bill?
And you are trying to convince me that when a price advantage of 8-30% (Based on numbers thrown about on this thread.) is up for grabs that Wal-Mart's competitors would not seek to use it?
Please explain.
Don't waste your breath on pittipat, Mad Dawgg. He doesn't want to hear about the real world.
Prefers to live in a dream one.
And as for the "correct" figure, 29.87% would be the normal statistical rounding to two places and NOT 30.00%. That's merely more dishonesty. Use 29.87% and I have no complaints; use 30% and it's obvious you're trying to fool people.LOL! Then I guess the AFT is trying to fool people [shock!].
Submission of Americans for Fair Taxation on the FairTax Comprehensive Tax Reform Proposal
to
The President's Advisory Panel on Federal Tax Reform
April 29, 2005"Several independent researchers confirm the FairTax is revenue neutral at 23 percent (tax inclusive) or 30 percent (tax exclusive)."
They also use the 30 percent rate all through their website. Fool.
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