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Top 11 Secrets of a National Retail Sales Tax
Various | 6-10-05 | Always Right

Posted on 06/10/2005 11:13:37 AM PDT by Always Right

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To: EternalVigilance
'Debating' with someone who calls themselves 'Always Right' is bound to be a fruitless exercise.

Sorry, that might make 9 insults and zero actual points.

781 posted on 06/12/2005 12:36:28 PM PDT by Always Right
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To: Always Right
So far you have contributed about 8 posts to this thread and have made 8 insults and zero points. About par for the course.

Which proves once again that you can't count OR read.

782 posted on 06/12/2005 12:36:56 PM PDT by EternalVigilance ("Quality of life": Another name for the slippery slope into barbarism...)
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To: EternalVigilance
And it's been downhill for the author's claims ever since. Where are we at, about 10 worthless posts. There are probably more, but I really don't want to go through this whole thread.
783 posted on 06/12/2005 12:38:13 PM PDT by Always Right
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To: EternalVigilance
Which proves once again that you can't count OR read.

11....are you going to make an actual point? I have giving you lots of time. I know it is hard.

784 posted on 06/12/2005 12:39:16 PM PDT by Always Right
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To: Always Right

Like all trolls, you avoid hard questions like the plague, since to answer would expose your lies even further.

But I'll try again:

What do you have against visibility, and why should anyone with an honest mind care one whit about your arguments about the rate, as long as the FairTax is revenue neutral at the time of its implementation?


785 posted on 06/12/2005 12:39:37 PM PDT by EternalVigilance ("Quality of life": Another name for the slippery slope into barbarism...)
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To: Always Right

Would American manufacturers be further ahead in the world market, and in our own market, minus the burden of the income tax code?


786 posted on 06/12/2005 12:41:45 PM PDT by EternalVigilance ("Quality of life": Another name for the slippery slope into barbarism...)
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To: Your Nightmare

That's a very incomplete example with insufficient data to reach the conclusion ("it's a wash") that you did.

Even if the Current System figures are correct, the NRST figures are not since John will clearly be spending the rest of his income on taxable consumption at a rate of 23% - higher than his rate under the Current System so he'll pay more in sales tax.

The tax for his "friend" on the illegal income of $125 when spent for taxable things would be $28.75, not $25, and so the FairTax clearly captures more since John's rate is higher and his friend also pays (at the same rate as John) also.

A clear win for the FairTax that illustrates it does, indeed, capture more of the illegal income than the present system. It's not a wash, at all.


787 posted on 06/12/2005 12:42:43 PM PDT by pigdog
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To: EternalVigilance
What do you have against visibility, and why should anyone with an honest mind care one whit about your arguments about the rate, as long as the FairTax is revenue neutral at the time of its implementation?

Visibility is good. A tax scheme that is going to be highly inflationary and destroy the economy is another story. If you want visibility, just make retailers put on their receipts how much embedded taxes are costing them. You don't need to disrupt our entire economy to make a point.

788 posted on 06/12/2005 12:43:19 PM PDT by Always Right
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To: Always Right

Would liberty be enhanced by an end an end to the IRS, with its ability to peer into every American's finances?


789 posted on 06/12/2005 12:43:32 PM PDT by EternalVigilance ("Quality of life": Another name for the slippery slope into barbarism...)
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To: Your Nightmare

The FairTax authors make no such agreement - that's merely your "spin" ... and it's incorrect.


790 posted on 06/12/2005 12:44:27 PM PDT by pigdog
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To: Always Right
If the states just pick up the income tax where the feds left off, what is the point?

In Georgia we have a state income tax. If we implement a fair tax nationally there will be hell to pay every April down here. There will be a call to revamp our system. As far as state employees being taxed, well, they are now aren't they? They get paid by the government and they get taxed by the government. What's the difference under a NRST?

791 posted on 06/12/2005 12:45:20 PM PDT by groanup (our children sleep soundly, thank-you armed forces)
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To: Always Right
A tax scheme that is going to be highly inflationary and destroy the economy is another story. If you want visibility, just make retailers put on their receipts how much embedded taxes are costing them.

I could have sworn that you said 'it was a wash'. But it is pretty hard to follow your mental contortions, so I could be wrong. Unlike you, of course...you're never wrong.

792 posted on 06/12/2005 12:47:23 PM PDT by EternalVigilance ("Quality of life": Another name for the slippery slope into barbarism...)
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To: Always Right

You certainly are in the minority. Check this link:

http://www.fairtax.org/pdfs/Homebuilders_will_benefit.pdf

and then the opinions of 75 economists:

http://www.fairtax.org/pdfs/Open_Letter_President.pdf


793 posted on 06/12/2005 12:47:46 PM PDT by pigdog
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To: EternalVigilance
Would American manufacturers be further ahead in the world market, and in our own market, minus the burden of the income tax code?

There might be some advantage from the sales tax, but since the employees are pocketing 2/3rds of the savings by eliminating the income tax, it is really not as big as a win for American manufactuers as stated. The biggest advantage may be from the sales tax causing inflation and devaluing the dollar even further, making our goods more competitive. But we will be paying more for foreign goods and oil.

794 posted on 06/12/2005 12:50:20 PM PDT by Always Right
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To: pigdog; Always Right

I have heard homebuilders on talk radio shows who are very much in favor of the fair tax.


795 posted on 06/12/2005 12:50:36 PM PDT by groanup (our children sleep soundly, thank-you armed forces)
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To: Always Right

Do you prepare your own taxes?

Are you aware that when a large number of tax 'experts' are asked to each prepare the taxes of one single filer, they invariably arrive at completely different amounts owed by said taxpayer?

Why the love affair with an obviously unfair, overly-complicated, convoluted, invasive system?


796 posted on 06/12/2005 12:52:08 PM PDT by EternalVigilance ("Quality of life": Another name for the slippery slope into barbarism...)
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To: EternalVigilance
I could have sworn that you said 'it was a wash'. But it is pretty hard to follow your mental contortions, so I could be wrong. Unlike you, of course...you're never wrong.

That was concerning the illegal economy, but I assume you knew that. It is a wash as far as taxing illegal revenues.

797 posted on 06/12/2005 12:52:37 PM PDT by Always Right
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To: Always Right

The underground economy is growing daily. Illegal aliens will find a way to bypass the tax system. The feds will let them slide and expect law abiding taxpayers to pick up the cost of that as well.

Any way we are all had. Paying for those people illegally in the country, and the number is growing daily with them and their 'anchor babies'.


798 posted on 06/12/2005 12:53:09 PM PDT by television is just wrong (http://hehttp://print.google.com/print/doc?articleidisblogs.blogspot.com/ (visit blogs, visit ads).)
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To: Always Right
but since the employees are pocketing 2/3rds of the savings by eliminating the income tax

People keeping what they earn is such an awful thing, isn't it...

799 posted on 06/12/2005 12:53:56 PM PDT by EternalVigilance ("Quality of life": Another name for the slippery slope into barbarism...)
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To: pigdog; Always Right

I'll also bet you dollars to donuts that the final version of the fair tax will exempt new homes.


800 posted on 06/12/2005 12:53:59 PM PDT by groanup (our children sleep soundly, thank-you armed forces)
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