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The ACLU Is Going Down...
The Rant ^ | June 10, 2005 | Justin Darr

Posted on 06/10/2005 8:36:44 AM PDT by Kaslin

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To: ArmyTeach
"A consummation devoutly to be wish('d)"

Another Shakespeare fan. Kewl! ;o)
21 posted on 06/10/2005 9:01:53 AM PDT by LIConFem (A fronte praecipitium, a tergo lupi.)
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To: Kaslin

Rec'd a call earlier this week from a person asking what my feelings were about the ACLU. I unloaded on the fellow. While I was ranting about how bad the ACLU was, I wondered if this person was doing a survey for the ACLU or was going to ask for money or both. So I changed tactics told the fellow to call me back later since I was going out. Have been fielding my calls through the message center since.


22 posted on 06/10/2005 9:03:18 AM PDT by lilylangtree (Veni, Vidi, Vici)
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To: Kaslin

Hannity stepped over a fence that was a ways inside the US border. He did not touch Mexico. And since when is it against American law for an American to enter Mexico?


23 posted on 06/10/2005 9:05:58 AM PDT by ThanhPhero (di hanh huong den La Vang)
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To: GSWarrior
They're suing him because they do not like the wording they have chosen to represent the “Arguments For” section of a local ballot initiative to save the Mt. Soledad Cross

It sais right in the article

24 posted on 06/10/2005 9:06:50 AM PDT by Kaslin
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To: Brilliant

In the first paragraph of the article it mentions pro bono attorneys - there may not be much pro bono to it because as I understand - there is a law and I don't know the number that says if a law suit is filed in a civil rights matter the person being sued has to pay the legal fees of the person that sued them.

Company A fires someone because they won't bath before they come to work - ACLU sues in the 9th Circus Court on the behalf of "Stinky" and wins then Company A has to pay Stinkys legal fees plus damages or whatever 9th Circus Court awards Stinky because of hurt feelings

I guess it is only pro bono if Stinky looses and is instructed to bath from here on


25 posted on 06/10/2005 9:06:57 AM PDT by MudSlide
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To: ThanhPhero

Yeah I remember that. He was showing it on Hannity and Colmes. They are nuts


26 posted on 06/10/2005 9:09:13 AM PDT by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin
The ACLU Is Going Down...

And I will enjoy the day this happens

27 posted on 06/10/2005 9:09:21 AM PDT by Mo1 (Democrats = The Socialist Party)
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To: Kaslin

I know, but what is Hedgecock's connection to the wording as it appears on the ballot? Did he write it?


28 posted on 06/10/2005 9:11:24 AM PDT by GSWarrior
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To: Sunshine Sister

Ping for a later read!


29 posted on 06/10/2005 9:11:31 AM PDT by Sunshine Sister
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To: StoneGiant

you are so great..says it all THANKS


30 posted on 06/10/2005 9:11:32 AM PDT by ConsentofGoverned (mark rich, s burger,flight 800, waco,cbs's national guard-just forget thats the game)
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To: Kaslin
The best known case involves popular talk show host Sean Hannity. While interviewing volunteers of the Minuteman Project last April in Arizona, Hannity inadvertently crossed the US/Mexico border for a few minutes then immediately returned. It was a simple mistake and easily understood in light of the pathetic security of our borders. However the ACLU, which led the good fight by trying to obstruct the Minutemen and goad them into conflicts while enabling the rampant invasion of illegals into our nation, decided this was an offense that could not be tolerated. Apparently upset at Hannity’s drawing interest to the good work of the Minutemen, Arizona State Rep. Kyrsten Sinema, under the auspices of the ACLU, demanded Hannity’s arrest.

First things first: The first post, in any ACLU thread posted on FR, should carry the following paragraph for context...

Roger Baldwin, the co-founder of the ACLU said: “I am for socialism, disarmament, and ultimately, for abolishing the state itself. … I seek social ownership of property, the abolition of the properties class, and sole control of those who produce wealth. Communism is the goal. I don’t regret being part of the communist tactic. I knew what I was doing. I was not an innocent liberal. I wanted what the communists wanted and I traveled the United Front road to get it.” In spite of Baldwin’s Communist leanings, President Jimmy Carter awarded him the Presidential Medal of Freedom on January 16, 1981.

Baldwin didn’t create the ACLU in a vacuum, he had plenty of help. A group of Communist Party officials, fellow travelers, anarchists and radicals joined Baldwin to found the ACLU in 1920.

Now then, a couple of questions and observations.
As I understand it, this foreign agent, " Arizona State Rep. Kyrsten Sinema" in concert with the Communist group consider an accidental border crossing "an offense that could not be tolerated", but simultaneous crossing in the opposite direction by hundreds, perhaps thousands of criminals (illegal entry is still a federal crime, close as I can tell) is freaking invisible"???
Seems to be a proper recall is in order for one, and charges of sedition for both. Yes, I believe a cultural war qualifies.

Where ae the groups with the motivation, moxie and clout to pursue this as a counterattack?
You need more funds? Just ask for them! This unrich American would be happy to contribute on a continuing basis!

31 posted on 06/10/2005 9:11:49 AM PDT by Publius6961 (The most abundant things in the universe are ignorance, stupidity and hydrogen)
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To: ThanhPhero; ArmyTeach; Kaslin

Man, I don't know how I missed this news about the ACLU suing Hannity. When did this happen? Is there really a court date, etc?


32 posted on 06/10/2005 9:13:23 AM PDT by demkicker (It's clear that Frist cannot heard those Senate cats!)
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To: Kaslin
Hannity inadvertently crossed the US/Mexico border for a few minutes then immediately returned

According to Hannity he stepped through a hole in the fence into a 3 foot buffer zone that was still US territory. He never crossed into Mexico and returned.

Despite the lack of a "crime", the ACLU and Arizona State Rep. Kyrsten Sinema peed all over themselves with excitement and were demanding a public execution or something similar. Meanwhile thirty miles further along the border, illegals continued to stream in while they did nothing.

33 posted on 06/10/2005 9:16:10 AM PDT by pfflier
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To: Kaslin
I did a search and have not found this posted yet

Try this.

34 posted on 06/10/2005 9:16:13 AM PDT by upchuck (If our nation be destroyed, it would be from the judiciary." ~ Thomas Jefferson)
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To: dirtboy

ACLU is an arm of the Democrat Party.


35 posted on 06/10/2005 9:19:17 AM PDT by Texas Songwriter
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To: Kaslin

What is the tort that Hannity committed against the ACLU?For a suit to be pursued there must be damage....what is the damage to the party bringing the suit? Will a court even entertain such a waist of time?


36 posted on 06/10/2005 9:22:12 AM PDT by Texas Songwriter
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To: Kaslin
There are several other cases in recent weeks which further illustrate this trend. In Tangipahoa Parish, Louisiana, the ACLU has called for the arrest of school teachers and administrators because the ACLU does not feel they adequately exorcised all Judeo-Christian influences from their classrooms and cafeterias.

This is actually a disastrous strategy for the ACLU, and a golden opportunity to drive the wooden stake through the heart of the ACLU vampire: create martyrs.

How many tachers and administrators who "stand their ground" can they arrest? How many students can they be allowed to inconvenience and injure?

On another facet of the potential development of this stupid strategy, what if, say, one million normal Americans pledge $1 a month put into a fund to support arrested teachers, administrators and their families while they are in jail? For as long as it takes?

I'm guessing that would take care of at least 150 prisoners of conscience and their families.
Double that contributon and it's still a pittance for the average American.

How long would the ACLU be able to afford that?
I would further suggest that any accused and arrested insist of individual trials!
I further expect that a significant number of businesses and wealthy patrons would step forward to provide additional funds.

It's a war they want?

37 posted on 06/10/2005 9:24:22 AM PDT by Publius6961 (The most abundant things in the universe are ignorance, stupidity and hydrogen)
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To: ThanhPhero
And since when is it against American law for an American to enter Mexico?

It's not. However, it is illegal to enter the United States without going through one of several official entry points (this is what they were trying to nail Hannity with). Of course, since Hannity never left the US, it doesn't apply here.
38 posted on 06/10/2005 9:25:11 AM PDT by andyk (Go Matt Kenseth!)
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To: Kaslin

The biggest difference between the ACLU and the standard ambulance chaser that I can discern is that the ACLU is not looking for offenders with money, but one with Christian influence to lose. So I guess the ACLU is funded in some non ambulance chaser way.


39 posted on 06/10/2005 9:25:52 AM PDT by biblewonk (Yes I think I am a bible worshipper.)
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To: Kaslin
The ACLU, like Senator Reid and Chairman Dean, is in fact God's gift to conservatives. The ACLU, Senator Reid and Chairman Dean help to galvanize the conservative movement. Because they are so outrageous, they help bring people to the polls who would otherwise stay home. We witnessed this last November.

Granted, the tactics used by the ACLU, Senator Reid and Chairman Dean are dangerous and destructive, but they expose the vicious underside of liberalism. They expose liberals for what they are: intolerant bigots.
40 posted on 06/10/2005 9:27:55 AM PDT by rockthecasbah
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