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Teens to be pulled over for good driving
WTSP-TV Tampa ^ | June 9, 2005 | DeAnna Sheffield

Posted on 06/09/2005 9:44:22 AM PDT by Millee

Beginning this fall Pinellas County Sheriff's Deputies will be pulling over teen drivers who haven't broken any traffic laws.

As part of a new program, deputies will be pulling over teens for safe driving and rewarding them with free movie theater and movie rental certificates.

Uniformed deputies driving unmarked cars will follow the drivers and give out the certificates.

"Deputies will follow them for a short distance, down a thoroughfare and we will watch their driving," said Sgt. Glenn Luben, Pinellas County Sheriff's Office. "Once we identify a good safe driver, we attempt to follow them to their house or open shopping area."

Some parents think it's a great idea to reward teens for safe, responsible driving. However, while most agree the reward is nice, some parents are concerned about this method of identifying safe drivers.

"I'd be concerned whether they'd think it's a real police officer pulling them over," says Jennifer Zeitler, parent of a teen driver. "It's scary for parents too. There's so many kidnappings and other things going on; I'd be concerned for my child."

The program was started by an Oldsmar, Fla. man whose son was killed in an accident involving a teen driver. After the program begins this fall, there is a possibility it will spread to other communities.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: 4thamendment; donutwatch; govwatch
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To: biblewonk

i never figured you out to be a police apologist, you're simply defending your position. I know lots of cops, and I know their culture. this isn't gonna be used for any good purposes - it's like Clinton saying how happy we're all gonna feel when we pay higher taxes.


101 posted on 06/09/2005 10:43:21 AM PDT by camle (keep your mind open and somebody will fill it full of something for you.)
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To: camle

You are just way too paranoid. I understand. I've been incorrectly paranoid before.


102 posted on 06/09/2005 10:43:56 AM PDT by biblewonk (Yes I think I am a bible worshipper.)
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To: Millee

Oh yea, also, how does one go about NOT getting pulled over when a cop is following them? Drive bad? Drive good? Nope, either one is good enough. This doesn't even pass the laugh test.


103 posted on 06/09/2005 10:44:02 AM PDT by Clump
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To: JIM O

"Attn young drivers: If a unmarked car attempts to pull you over drive to the police station."

A guy got shot after driving from MD to VA a year or so back, he didn't want to stop for an unmarked car flashing a badge.


104 posted on 06/09/2005 10:45:40 AM PDT by ko_kyi
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To: Millee
Bad idea. Better to run the plate and mail the freebies to the address on the registration, with a note asking that the freebies be given to the teen. Much safer and much less intrusive.

They could even add a regulation that offsets one speeding ticket by 3 or 5 Good Driving Citations. No, wait - that would take money out of the guvmint's pockets. Never happen.

105 posted on 06/09/2005 10:46:20 AM PDT by savedbygrace ("No Monday morning quarterback has ever led a team to victory" GW Bush)
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To: biblewonk

not every cop is a good cop. and not all cops are up on any given day. the constitution is to protect us from bad cops, or cops simply having bad days.

not every cop is a bad cop either, but this opens the door for a lot of abuse by the cops.

you were pulled over for not wearing your seatbelt. how would you like to be pulled over because you weren't doing anything wrong?


106 posted on 06/09/2005 10:46:27 AM PDT by camle (keep your mind open and somebody will fill it full of something for you.)
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To: camle
Excuse me officer,why did you pull me over?I pulled you over son because your driving skills are impeccable and we want to reward you with a movie ticket.Is that an empty beer can in the backseat?Let me put these cuffs on you while I search your car.You are under arrest for driving around with an open container.You have the right to remain silent and everything you say can and will be used against you in a court of law.But officer do I still get the movie ticket?No, but you will get one phone call.
107 posted on 06/09/2005 10:46:34 AM PDT by rdcorso (To Fight And Win The War On Terror We Must Secure Our Borders Now.)
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To: camle

I'm not a police apologist but I've also learned not to be so horrible distrustful of the government. I've seen too many instances of really decent people in government trying to do decent things and I also live among the amazingly disfunctional rabble that passes as a free society today.


108 posted on 06/09/2005 10:46:44 AM PDT by biblewonk (Yes I think I am a bible worshipper.)
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To: Clump
This entire scheme reeks.

The police could just as well copy the license number down...obtain the address...and send the free movie tickets with a cover letter.

109 posted on 06/09/2005 10:46:48 AM PDT by DCPatriot
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To: biblewonk

i'm not being paranoid, I just enjoy a little concept called liberty. part of liberty is being able to drive down the street and not worry about being rousted by the cops for not doing anything wrong.

I've been wrongly busted by the cops on occasion and i'd hate to see us sacrificin g our kid's dreiving records on the altar of police entitlement.


110 posted on 06/09/2005 10:48:25 AM PDT by camle (keep your mind open and somebody will fill it full of something for you.)
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To: ActionNewsBill
Police are NOT your friends

I do hope someday you have reason to amend that opinion.

111 posted on 06/09/2005 10:48:26 AM PDT by newgeezer (James 1:2-3)
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To: DCPatriot

Very good point. A less intrusive manner of achieving a legitimate purpose. This would probably pass muster.


112 posted on 06/09/2005 10:48:39 AM PDT by Clump
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To: biblewonk

If they want to reward safe drivers, they can take the tag number and send the reward to the registration address, as others have suggested. I wouldn't have any problem with that and would think it's a neat idea.


113 posted on 06/09/2005 10:49:00 AM PDT by AntiGuv (™)
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To: ActionNewsBill
the reason they are doing this is so they will have another reason to pull someone over and conduct a fishing expedition.

I think another reason they are doing this is to get our kids used to the idea that they can be stopped at any time for any reason.

114 posted on 06/09/2005 10:49:00 AM PDT by spiffy
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To: camle
you were pulled over for not wearing your seatbelt. how would you like to be pulled over because you weren't doing anything wrong?

camle, I wouldn't like it. I get that adrenaline(sp) rush just like anyone else when I see a cop behind me. But the point I have tried to make with you is that if the cops really want to harass you, they already can. I learned this when I was in the Army which is why I asked someone, can't remember if it was you, if they had been in the military. It is impossible to pass an inspection if they don't want you to pass. That is what we have today on the streets constitution or no. Therefore I finally quit being paranoid when I realized that if they wanted the could lock me up at anytime.

115 posted on 06/09/2005 10:49:28 AM PDT by biblewonk (Yes I think I am a bible worshipper.)
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To: camle

This is confusing because we have two parallel threads on the same thread. ;-)


116 posted on 06/09/2005 10:50:02 AM PDT by biblewonk (Yes I think I am a bible worshipper.)
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To: biblewonk

well, we disagree. most government workers exist to control the population. whatever help they give, they take freedom and responsibility away in turn. Ronald Reagan said that the government governs best that governs least. I agree with that.

this is a thin excuse to garner public support for taking our liberties away.


117 posted on 06/09/2005 10:51:13 AM PDT by camle (keep your mind open and somebody will fill it full of something for you.)
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To: AntiGuv

I agree, that would probably work a lot better. This seems like a good intention that is going to make people mad. OK, it would almost certainly work a lot better. The only way to make this reward thing work well is to follow the teen to his destination and then just catch up to him on foot with the reward.


118 posted on 06/09/2005 10:51:26 AM PDT by biblewonk (Yes I think I am a bible worshipper.)
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To: biblewonk
I'm not in the Police_are_not_your_friends club at all.

Maybe I confused you with someone else with "bible" in his screen name.

119 posted on 06/09/2005 10:51:44 AM PDT by ActionNewsBill ("In times of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act")
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To: AntiGuv

I also like the way we came to that better solution.


120 posted on 06/09/2005 10:52:05 AM PDT by biblewonk (Yes I think I am a bible worshipper.)
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