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To: RightWhale

Speculations have their place, smoke has its generating source.

I remember reading the story of a man who believed that an ancient city existed despite the serious doubts amongst the "learned men and scientists of the day" pooh poohed as myth....until this man uncovered the ancient city of Troy!

Now for thousands of years the concept of the divine seems to have existed despite the serious doubts amongst the "learned men and scientists of the day".....

I will allow that the pairing of the two examples above may be a non sequitor....but a famous sage was quoted to have stated once"Seek and ye shall find, ask and ye shall receive, knock and the door shall be opened unto thee...."!

Hey even if the "dog barks up a wrong tree, he can still lift his leg and take a leak on it!"


81 posted on 06/10/2005 2:18:50 PM PDT by mdmathis6 (Even when a dog discovers he is barking up a wrong tree, he can still take a leak on it!)
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To: mdmathis6
Francis Bacon didn't have a problem with the Deity and he was quite the scientist. The Vienna Circle was doing very well dismantling both metaphysics and the Deity until Goedel sunk their boat. Goedel apparently didn't complete Leibniz's proof, but maybe somebody will later; even Goedel left some work to future logicians.

There is still plenty of room for the Diety among science thinking and scientists, but it is hard to get a fresh perspective so doesn't usually get mention in the journals.

If a man takes a particular mindset, he can see Providence just about everywhere and that ought to do for intuition.

83 posted on 06/10/2005 2:28:14 PM PDT by RightWhale (I know nothing, and less every day)
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