Jesus died of blood clot - Israeli researcher

Yahoo - Reuters ^ | June 8, 2005

[Petronski]

I guess the scientific method in medical schools has succombed to mere hypothesis.

After all, nothing says "science" like wild-ass conjecture!

[Pharmboy]

Yes, and I was referring to dying of either exsanguination or pulmonary embolus. That's the way the issue arose.

[GipperGal]

I literally -- literally -- spit out some of the coffee I was drinking laughing at this. I am now drying my desk...

[Petronski]

You deserve a fresh mug of coffee anyway. Treat yourself right!

[GipperGal]

This is the second time you've done this to me. (The first was with the "This oughta do the trick" post). LOL! That one still makes me smile...

[Petronski]

LOL

[Gamecock]

All I can assume by "them" is God fearing Christians.

Christians like those who came to America to Worship the Sovereign God.

Christians who lead the Revolutionary War. They were so involved in that war that King George referred to it as the "Presbyterian Revolt."

Great leaders of history and today, like Andrew Jackson, Stonewall Jackson, Ronald Reagan, Condoleezza Rice, Dick Armey, James Buchanan, Aaron Burr, (U.S. Vice-President under Jefferson), The Rev. Aaron Burr (co-founder of Princeton University), John C. Calhoun, Dwight D. Eisenhower, Bill Frist, Katherine Harris, Benjamin Harrison, Christine Todd Whitman, Woodrow Wilson.

One of those who penned and signed the Declaration of Independence? One of those whose model of Church Government was the basis for our very own Constitution. So profound was the impact of those that the historian Ranke said that "John Calvin was the virtual founder of America."

One of those who went to Brazil, India, and other hell-holes of the world seeking out God's elect? Men like Stanley Livingstone and William Carey?

One of those? I am, indeed one of those. I am one of those who proudly bears the title

[hosepipe]

Yeah!.. And Vince Foster died because of being a democrat..
Liberals(wherever they are from) just can't get the message..
Because the message is hidden under so much LOGIC..

[SoothingDave]

Yep, either smug self-satisfaction or despair. Those are the fruits of Calvin's doctrine.

SD

[GipperGal]

This is what I meant by "zoo."

[Petronski]

OMG!


LOL

[Gamecock]

The United States Of America

The true fruits of Calvin's Doctrine.

Liberal schools/Theology didn't teach you that, did it?

[SoothingDave]

#1, the claim that America is a Calvinist-only creation is bunk.

#2, America is not perfect and we see today the continuing ill effects of the extreme individuality taught by Protestants in general.

SD

[FatherofFive]

"One of those who went to Brazil, India, and other hell-holes of the world seeking out God's elect?"

If the elect were not found, what would it matter?

[Petronski]

If the elect were not found, what would it matter?

An excellent question! Had they not been found, would God's selection of them have been thwarted?

And if it could not have been thwarted, why was it so important that they be found?

And if finding them was itself part of God's unthwartable plan, what is so great about the men who went and found these elect, since the finding of them was, after all, unthwartably predestined?

Whew. The circularity is dizzying!

[GipperGal]

One of those who went to Brazil, India, and other hell-holes

Yeah, no other Christians went to Brazil or India. I guess that explains why Brazil is the country with the largest Catholic population and Christianity in India is primarily associated with a little old Catholic sister who passed away a few years back.

[GipperGal]

Great leaders of history and today, like... James Buchanan...John C. Calhoun...Christine Todd Whitman..."

And you're proud of this? Buchanan and Calhoun were both pro-slavery. Calhoun was rabidly so! And as for Christine Todd Whitman, well...where do I begin...

[SoothingDave]

And if finding them was itself part of God's unthwartable plan, what is so great about the men who went and found these elect, since the finding of them was, after all, unthwartably predestined?

And, for that matter, why thump your chest about the fact that your theological forefathers were great founders and leaders of America? If it was gonna happen anyway, why fill yourself with pride over it?

This homage to Aaron Burr and Woodrow Wilson, if I didn't know better, looks suspiciously like the veneration Papists give to their saints.

SD

[SoothingDave]

And as for Christine Todd Whitman, well...where do I begin...

I just noticed that myself.

SD

[GipperGal]

Quick, someone call Christine Todd Whitman's office and ask her what she thinks of predestination.