Live Thread: New Jersey Primary.

6/7/05

[watsonfellow]

Comments, questions, concerns.

[sonrise57]

Hope your right. It's the 8% that the tricky part. I am almost certain that if Forrester wins the social conservatives will stay home in droves.

[sonrise57]

Well, I am headed out for my evening church meeting. When I return there will be either weeping or cheering in Mountainside.

[AuH2ORepublican]

"I am almost certain that if Forrester wins the social conservatives will stay home in droves."

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It will be very difficult to say the least for Forrester to be able to motivate conservatives to go vote when he stands for so many liberal principles. Still, he's far preferable to Corzine, and if Forrester ends up winning (which I hope he doesn't) I hope he extends an olive branch to conservatives, adopts a more conservative platform and beats Corzine in November.

And if Schundler wins, I hope the RINOs who deserted him in 2001 think about how they agree with Schundler on a heck of a lot more issues than they do with Corzine, and just as they voted heavily for Reagan in the 1980s they should extend their support to Schundler in 2005. Schundler is not as conservative as George W. Bush, and Corzine is even more liberal than John Kerry, so I think the Kerry 52.92%, Bush 46.24% result from 2004 can be turned into Schundler 50%, Corzine 49% in 2005. And did you hear that a former Democrat mayor will run as an independent for governor? PoliticsNJ.com reported that: "Former Stafford Mayor Wesley Bell, who said several months ago that he would run in the Democratic gubernatorial primary but never filed nominating petitions, filed today as an Independent candidate. Bell, who has run for U.S. Senate and State Senate, has lost four mayoral bids since being ousted in 1983. (06/07/05)" Sounds like Bell won't get many votes, but in a close race any votes he takes away from Corzine could be crucial to a GOP victory.

[Fudd Fan]

Some Christie-Whitman wannabe (complete with an overbite yet) from Forrester's campaign was just on NJN telling the reporter how their strategy is second to none. Which would be what, send a flyer to every house every other day?

Someone from Bret's campaign is on now.

[SunnyD1182]

I'm not all that much of a social conservative, and even *I* will stay home if Forrester wins.

Schundler better win this, or today is the day Jon Corzine wins the Gubernatorial election.

[firewalk]

bttt

[Coop]

Corzine still managed to eke out a 2% win against a Republican that he outspent like 10:1.

I checked the numbers today. 51-47%

[mware]

I registered my vote for Bret at 6:30 this morning.

[mware]

A lousy phot of Bret. I have to look at my pics from CPAC a few years ago. I have a great one of him up close.

[Coop]

Hard to believe that it's already been four years since I sat in my home office cheering along with most of FR as Bret completed a huge comeback and won the 2001 primary.

[mware]

Yeap, Bret is a rising star in the GOP. Too bad he has to run in campaigns in NJ.

I spoke to him awhile back and mentioned how angry I was with the NJ GOP for not backing him, (including the then acting REPUBLICAN governor.) Since then I have NEVER given to the NJ GOP, I give to individual candidates.

[Coop]

Why haven't I seen you on this thread? I'm guessing you're busy working the polls. :-)

[AuH2ORepublican]

"I checked the numbers today. 51-47%"

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According to Adam Carr, the final result was 50.1%-47.1%, which splits the difference between what we each said. http://psephos.adam-carr.net/countries/u/usa/congress/senate2000.txt

This site shows the same 50.1%-47.1% margin, and says that Corzine outspent Franks by over 14:1: http://www.gwu.edu/~action/states/nj.htm

[NO_2_CORZINE]

Hot of the polls!!
Governor - Rep
Doug Forrester GOP [R] 1,149 39%
Bret D. Schundler GOP [R 736 25%
Robert Schroeder GOP [R] 409 14%
John Murphy GOP [R] 214 7%
Steven M. Lonegan GOP [R] 188 6%
Paul DiGaetano GOP [R] 149 5%
Todd Caliguire GOP [R] 72 2%

[NO_2_CORZINE]

Robert Schroeder GOP [R] 409 14% Im guessing that Bergen County sent him that kind of support. Here in BC hes very popular around Washington Township and Paramus Areas.

[NO_2_CORZINE]

State Assembly
Dist
3
James W. Zee GOP [R] 84 49%
Philip S. Rhudy GOP [R] 80 47%
Ron Brittin GOP [R] 8 5%
Dist
12
Jennifer Beck GOP [R] 0 0%
Evan S. Maltz GOP [R] 0 0%
Declan O'Scanlon GOP [R] 0 0%
Dist
13
William E. Flynn Dem [D] 0 0%
Michael Dasaro Dem [D] 0 0%
Leonard L. Inzerillo Dem [D] 0 0%
Dist
13
Samuel D. Thompson GOP (i) [R] 0 0%
Joe Azzolina GOP (i) [R] 0 0%
Amy Handlin GOP [R] 0 0%
Dist
16
Stan Serafin GOP [R] 0 0%
Pete Biondi GOP (i) [R] 0 0%
Christopher 'Kip' Bateman GOP (i) [R] 0 0%
Dist
20
Neil M. Cohen Dem (i) [D] 0 0%
Joseph Cryan Dem (i) [D] 0 0%
Garrett Smith Dem [D] 0 0%
Dist
22
Linda Stender Dem (i) [D] 0 0%
Jerry Green Dem (i) [D] 0 0%
Charles F. Booker Dem [D] 0 0%
Bill Campbell Dem [D] 0 0%
Barbara Todd Kerr Dem [D] 0 0%
Dist
23
Marcia A. Karrow GOP [R] 126 28%
Michael J. Doherty GOP (i) [R] 111 25%
Frank J. Fuzo GOP [R] 100 23%
Mark Peck GOP [R] 64 14%
John DiMaio GOP [R] 25 6%
Susan L. Wagner-Glaser GOP [R] 18 4%
Dist
25
Thomas Jackson Dem [D] 0 0%
Patrick Fahy Dem [D] 0 0%
Janice Schindler Dem [D] 0 0%
Gaston Parraga Dem [D] 0 0%
Dist
27
Mims Hackett Jr. Dem (i) [D] 0 0%
John F. McKeon Dem (i) [D] 0 0%
Jermaine Rankin Dem [D] 0 0%
Dist
29
William D. Payne Dem (i) [D] 0 0%
Wilfredo Caraballo Dem (i) [D] 0 0%
Joanne Miller Dem [D] 0 0%
Dist
31
Louis M. Manzo Dem (i) [D] 0 0%
Christine Petersen Dem [D] 0 0%
Charles T. Epps Dem [D] 0 0%
Bill Ayala Dem [D] 0 0%
Anthony Chiappone Dem (i) [D] 0 0%
Dist
33
Vincent T. Lombardi Dem [D] 0 0%
Julio Fernandez Dem [D] 0 0%
Brian P. Stack Dem (i) [D] 0 0%
Albio Sires Dem (i) [D] 0 0%
Dist
34
Vashti Johnson Dem [D] 0 0%
Thomas P. Giblin Dem [D] 0 0%
Sheila Y. Oliver Dem (i) [D] 0 0%
Debbie Ellison Dem [D] 0 0%
Clenard H. Childress Dem [D] 0 0%
Dist
35
Rinaldo M. D'Argenio GOP [R] 0 0%
Meghan Green GOP [R] 0 0%
Jennifer Scully GOP [R] 0 0%
James W. Feeney GOP [R] 0 0%
Deborah Shortway GOP [R] 0 0%
Chauncey I. Brown GOP [R] 0 0%
Dist
36
Rocco Maltese GOP [R] 0 0%
Louis G. Aloia GOP [R] 0 0%
Jose M. Sandoval GOP [R] 0 0%
Jon Kearney GOP [R] 0 0%
Dist
37
Sheldon Stein GOP [R] 0 0%
Norman Gorlyn GOP [R] 0 0%
Frank J. Cifarelli GOP [R] 0 0%
Dist
39
Kenneth A. Gabbert GOP [R] 0 0%
John E. Rooney GOP (i) [R] 0 0%
Jeffrey Hering GOP [R] 0 0%
Charlotte Vandervalk GOP (i) [R] 0 0%
Dist
40
Kevin J. O'Toole GOP (i) [R] 0 0%
John P. Ginty GOP [R] 0 0%
David C. Russo GOP (i) [R] 0 0%

[NO_2_CORZINE]

Some Christie-Whitman wannabe (complete with an overbite yet) from Forrester's campaign was just on NJN telling the reporter how their strategy is second to none. Which would be what, send a flyer to every house every other day?

AGREED! My household went anti-forrester because they interruped dinner 7 nights in-a-row!

[NO_2_CORZINE]

THIS JUST IN!
Governor - Rep Doug Forrester GOP 5,710 39% Bret D. Schundler GOP 4,265 29% Robert Schroeder GOP 1,572 11%
Steven M. Lonegan GOP 1,185 8% John Murphy GOP 1,082 7% Paul DiGaetano GOP 643 4% Todd Caliguire GOP 268 2% ...Just wait until Morris county comes in...you'll see the Murphy numbers soooooar.

[NO_2_CORZINE]

THIS JUST IN! Governor -
Rep Doug Forrester GOP 5,710 39%
Bret D. Schundler GOP
4,265 29% Robert Schroeder GOP
1,572 11%
Steven M. Lonegan GOP 1,185 8%
John Murphy GOP 1,082 7%
Paul DiGaetano GOP
643 4% Todd Caliguire GOP
268 2%

...Just wait until Morris county comes in...you'll see the Murphy numbers soooooar.

[BroncosFan]

Is there a live county-by-county vote result site? Doug's people look too happy.