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Eastern Mysticism and Christianity are Incompatible
The Omega Letter Intelligence Digest ^ | 06.02.05 | Jan Markell

Posted on 06/04/2005 8:03:15 PM PDT by Coleus

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Yoga - Health or Stealth?
1 posted on 06/04/2005 8:03:15 PM PDT by Coleus
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To: Coleus

If Yoga is sitting there contemplating, then why not contemplate Christ? Meditation is not Christian either, but can people meditate on Christ. If one engages in Yoga not as a universalist spiritism thing, I see no problem in it. Many cultures integrate their ways with their Christian religion. That's why Christianity has been successful.


2 posted on 06/04/2005 8:13:12 PM PDT by followerofchrist
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The day has come when we need a “spiritual Better Business Bureau” to deal with fads, dangerous trends, and mysticism now entering the church.

Time to revive the Spanish Inquisition. They knew how to "deal with" dangerous trends. What a crock.

3 posted on 06/04/2005 8:14:46 PM PDT by Grim
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To: Coleus
And what's your position on acapuncture? That started in the Orient too.

How about meditation?

4 posted on 06/04/2005 8:15:17 PM PDT by Coyoteman
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To: Coleus

My girl does Yoga everyday, it's just stretching.


5 posted on 06/04/2005 8:16:47 PM PDT by Zeroisanumber
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To: Coleus

placemark for later comments.


6 posted on 06/04/2005 8:17:36 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Resisting evil is our duty or we are as responsible as those promoting it.)
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A perfect example of Christians debasing Christianity with their absurd, up-tight interpretation of Jesus.

It is not exactly on topic, but let me say this. Islam is destroying religion. And the plentiful Christians who sound as absurd and irrational as moslems are helping to destroy religion.

This article reflects the smallness of spirit which is the essence of Islam. Why would Christians want to be that small?

7 posted on 06/04/2005 8:22:54 PM PDT by Urbane_Guerilla
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To: Coleus

Thanks for this article and the extra link. This is dangerous stuff that appears harmless and folks get sucked in without realizing what they are doing.


8 posted on 06/04/2005 8:28:22 PM PDT by Just A Nobody (I - L O V E - my attitude problem!)
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I had extreme knee joint pain for 2 years. During that time I went to physical therapy to try and correct the problem. But 2 years later there was no change. So, on a whim I enrolled in a yoga class. One month later, my pain was reduced by 50%. After 3 months, it was down to 90%.

I don't practice any sort of spirituality associated with yoga. I just do a few exercises that stretch my muscles and joints, and it keeps my joint pain under control. I am a Christian, so I would like to know exactly what other Christians find wrong about reducing joint pain?

9 posted on 06/04/2005 8:36:31 PM PDT by stripes1776
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Nothing.


10 posted on 06/04/2005 8:41:13 PM PDT by rudyudy
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To: Coleus

This article is completely ridiculous. Christian mystics (many of them saints) have meditated on Christ for centuries. Physical yoga (aka Hatha Yoga) is, as someone else already said, just stretching. And as a matter of fact, some Eastern philosophies *are* compatible with Christianity. Gautama Buddha, for example, adamantly refused to identify himself as a god. When asked about his views on deities, the Buddha refused to answer, since he said that gods and such had no bearing on the philosophy which he was teaching. It is possible to be a Christian and still follow Buddhist philosophy, as long as you stick with what the Buddha actually said, rather than getting into the centuries of tradion and so forth that were added on later. (In fairness, I don't think it is possible to be both a Hindu and a Christian, since Hindus generally follow several gods. Interestingly, however, some modern Hindus identify Jesus as one of their several gods.)


11 posted on 06/04/2005 8:43:41 PM PDT by Hetty_Fauxvert (http://sonoma-moderate.blogspot.com/)
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If some idiot renounces Christianity because he follows a workout tape that teaches him how to breathe and stretch in sync, then that idiot isn't long for the faith anyways.

If you do yoga, Satan will subvert your mind into becoming a Hindu. If you read the Iliad, you'll become a pagan. If you listen to rock music, you're worshipping Satan. If you read a book on the history of Japan, you'll become a Shintoiest, ie, a Satanist. If you read the Lord of the Rings, you'll become a wiccan who believes in earth witches. If you read Hamlet, you'll emulate your role model Hamlet like the good monkey you are and commit regicide. If a woman wears a dress, a man will definitely lust after her and he will rape her. If a church puts on a play--any play--that church is falling away as prophesized in Revelation because it is embracing pagan roots --after all, it was the ancient Greeks who invented the play, therefore all plays should be banned. Oh and alphabets? Don't get me started on alphabets and those pagan Phoenicians. Better wrap everyone up like bhirka mummies so they won't be exposed to anything.


12 posted on 06/04/2005 8:44:49 PM PDT by 0siris
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To: followerofchrist

and if anyone leads one of these little ones astray it would be better for them to have a mill stone tied around their neck and be cast into the sea....."

Becareful what you advocate.


13 posted on 06/04/2005 8:47:23 PM PDT by Walkingfeather
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To: Hetty_Fauxvert

Thanks HF for posting some sane thoughts.

I could never see the why people get so freaked out by everything.

Then again, I could never see why evolution is such a issue either.


14 posted on 06/04/2005 8:50:04 PM PDT by ChinaGotTheGoodsOnClinton
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To: followerofchrist
"Eastern Mysticism and Christianity are Incompatible"

well duh

15 posted on 06/04/2005 8:57:39 PM PDT by JWinNC (www.anailinhisplace.net)
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Why is Christianity incompatible with evolution?

First of all we need to define what a Christian is, a person who believes in, adheres to, trusts in, relies on Christ and believes that he is revealed through the Holy Scriptures (i.e. the Holy Bible.) If you read Genesis you should realize that God created the earth in six LITERAL days (because it mentions "there was evening, and there was morning.) This is not a specific symbolic meaning (as would be demonstrated in say, the Book of Revelations.) If God did create the earth in six literal days than it is already contradictory to evolution which states that after millions of years unicellular organisms evolved into multicellular organisms and we really are descendants of monkeys.

For more information go to

http://answersingenesis.org/home/area/qa.asp


16 posted on 06/04/2005 9:04:36 PM PDT by jsm30625
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To: Hetty_Fauxvert

Buddhism adamently supports vegetarianism.
Christianity on the other does not (Judaism has the sacrifice of animals used as a symbol of the redemtive work of Christ.)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buddhism#Principles_of_Buddhism


"The ultimate goal of all Buddhists is to attain nirvana, the extinction of all desire, passions and individual identity."
Contrary to Christianity, God gave us "desire" and yearnings for specific things, why should our individual identity be extinct, we were made in the image of God.

I don't have time to go into all the details but here is a good website that will explain Buddhism.

http://www.christiananswers.net/evangelism/beliefs/buddhism.html


17 posted on 06/04/2005 9:11:20 PM PDT by jsm30625
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To: Hetty_Fauxvert
It is possible to be a Christian and still follow Buddhist philosophy

I think you may be right since there is no God in Buddhism. But as a Christian, you must acknowledge the existence of God at some point. However, if I am to engage in the philosophy of religion, I prefer the Western tradition since I am a Westerner.

In fairness, I don't think it is possible to be both a Hindu and a Christian, since Hindus generally follow several gods. Interestingly, however, some modern Hindus identify Jesus as one of their several gods.

There are some compelling arguments that Krishna did not appear in Hinduism until Christianity reached India. Also, of all major contemporary religions, Hinduism is the only one that has the concept of the incarnation of God, although as a polytheistic religion there is not one unique incarnation but rather many. Still, I think there are more lines of contact between Christianity and Hinduism that most people would be willing to acknowledge.

18 posted on 06/04/2005 9:14:40 PM PDT by stripes1776
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Deuteronomy 4:19..."And lest thou lift up thine eyes unto heaven, and when thou seest the sun, and the moon, and the stars, even all the host of heaven, shouldest be driven to worship them, and serve them, which the LORD thy God hath divided unto all nations under the whole heaven."

Malachi 1:11..."For from the rising of the sun even unto the going down of the same my name shall be great among the Gentiles; and in every place incense shall be offered unto my name, and a pure offering: for my name shall be great among the heathen, saith the LORD of hosts."

...So long as the Laws of Noah are adhered to - whether one knows them by that name, or not.

19 posted on 06/04/2005 9:16:37 PM PDT by onedoug
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To: Coleus
The day has come when we need a “spiritual Better Business Bureau” to deal with fads, dangerous trends, and mysticism now entering the church.

The Spiritual Counterfeits Project has been doing something like this since 1973.

20 posted on 06/04/2005 9:19:38 PM PDT by aposiopetic
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