[churchillbuff]

Churchillbluff hates the military"""

Really? Does that include the two young women in my family who are in the Air Force and headed to the Middle East? No, just because I oppose a particular policy of politicians (ie the Iraq invasion) -- just as I opposed Clinton in Kosovo -- it does not mean I "hate the military." Only someone who cannot or refuses to think logically would insist on that conclusion. Rightly or wrongly, Lincoln opposed the Mexican War. That did not mean that he "hated the military" Gen. Omar Bradley opposed MacArthur's plan for a war with China over north Korea. That did not mean that Bradley "hated the military." Ah, but I fear that this level of logic is wasted on you.

[Lord Nelson]

I think we need to consider the vulnerable nature the United States is as an open society. We cannot close the ports or inspect every crate for bombs. That would bring the economy to a screeching halt. The less that has to be dont to slow down economic activity in the homeland the better. Bringing the battle to them is the answer. Although I agree that immigration policy needs to be taken, set on fire, and a new policy, including real measures of enforcement to be created.

[sheltonmac]

No, just because I oppose a particular policy of politicians (ie the Iraq invasion) -- just as I opposed Clinton in Kosovo -- it does not mean I "hate the military."

It's interesting that those who spoke out against Clinton's "war" in the Balkans weren't branded as military-hating, anti-American Milosevic sympathizers. Now that a Republican is in office, however, things are different. The people who opposed our attack on the Serbs are the same ones who say that you can't support the troops without supporting the mission. I call that hypocrisy.