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To: BurbankKarl; penguino
Possibly. Those who have been on the TM since last summer should remember the Abu Hafs brigade quite well. They were intricately involved in the repeated warnings to Italy, that seemed to be backed up by Italian actions... then, nothing happened. Interestingly enough, it was right around this time last summer. It is interesting that they would issue a warning within 60 days of an attack in Europe, but I remember there was much mystery involving them last yr (even down to - was it one person pretending to be a terror group). If I recall correctly, penguino was the one who found an image on Italian on a site, then posted here... before the threat became 'public knowledge.'

Some info from last summer follows:

http://www.ianlivingston.com/archived/2004/italythreats_july28.htm

Threats Against Italy & Europe Mount

Original Threat (July 14th, 2004):

In the name of Allah the compassionate, the merciful
That Allah may be exalted...

This is an ultimatum to the Italian people. Either get rid of Berlusconi, the Incapable, or -specifically- we will burn Italy. This is a clear equation. We're indicating, to clear our conscience at this point, that you have been warned. After this, the next message you will see on your earth - you won't be reading it on an Internet site.

Berlusconi promises you only blood and total slavery to the United States...I remind you again of the great Italian journalist Antonio Rosso who was killed by Putin's secret service because he shared in the suffering of our brothers in Chechnya where he was welcome. Berlusconi has not lifted a finger to ask for an open investigation into that murder.

(Repeats)

Don't let yourselves be fooled by the media that controls and directs Berlusconi. And try to learn the objective facts. We are not bloodthirsty animals or stupid fanatics like we are described in Berlusconi's media. We are intelligent, upstanding people from a great Muslim culture, we are people who see Muslims oppressed and tortured in all parts of the world because of the Western world and by the dictatorial and totalitarian regimes from the West.

I am sure that the media of Berlusconi will say this is a message of pure threat and that we will kill Fouad Allam, or another deficient view - they are trying to trick you by saying Fouad Allam and his cohorts represent the true Islam, peaceful and that refuses violence...

Don't let yourselves be fooled. Free yourselves from the superiority complex typical of the West with respect to the Muslim world. Know that the so-called moderate government is your worst enemies and that Islam answers violence with a violence proportionate to preserving our dignity and that which prohibits us from turning the other cheek.

We also know that the first lines of this message are not a threat, but an attempt to show you the real truth that we are ready to strike targets of a new type with unconventional weapons that will cause a massacre of huge dimensions. A man who has decided to give up his life in order to serve his cause is worth a whole army. September 11 is the best example.

We are in Italy and by now no one in Italy is safe if you continue to ignore the terms (or offers) of my sheik. We are well prepared ( with the help of Allah ) to transform this promise into reality...A bloodbath similar to September 11 is knocking at Italy's door.

We will write with our blood and with that of thousands of Italians a page that will remain chiseled in Italian history...

Peace to who chooses the path to salvation...

IanLivingston.Com Exclusive / Original Threat : Image

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Statement Threatens Attacks Vs. Italy

CAIRO, Egypt - A statement purportedly written by an al-Qaida-linked group threatened to launch attacks on Italian soil if Premier Silvio Berlusconi remains in office.

The statement, signed by the Brigades of Abu Hafs al-Masri and posted Friday on an Internet site known for carrying extremist Islamic content, follows the expiration of a three-month offer of a terrorism truce purportedly made by Osama bin Laden (news - web sites) to European states, including Italy.

"Either you get rid of the inefficient Berlusconi, or we will really burn Italy," the undated statement said, adding, "Berlusconi is dragging you into more blood plus absolute slavery to America."

There was no way to verify the authenticity of the statement.

Full Story...


Second Threat (July 26th, 2004):

Terror Group Warns Italy to Pull Troops

CAIRO, Egypt -- Al-Qaida-linked Islamic militants on Monday threatened to "shake the earth" everywhere in Italy if Rome does not withdraw troops from Iraq.

The Internet statement attributed to the Abu Hafs al-Masri Brigades, the second such threat against the government of Prime Minister Silvio Berlusconi in two weeks, was post on a Web site known from carrying materials from Islamic militants.

"This is a warning and a threat to the Italian government, which devoted itself to serving the criminal American crusade, to follow suit with those who preceded you and leave the land of Iraq," the statement said. "Otherwise, we will change our correspondence into words of blood and shake the earth everywhere in your (lands)."

"To the despicable Italian prime minister: If you have not heard this threat, then we will make you hear it in Rome, in every place and under the feet of your people, with Allah's will. We give you, Berlusconi, a few days only, then you will see things that displease you," it said.

The Italian government had no immediate comment. In the past, it has ignored such threats. There was no way to verify the authenticity of the statement.

Full Story...


Third Threat (July 28, 2004)

In the name of Allah Most Gracious Most Merciful
Abu Hafs Al-Masri Brigades
The Al-Qaeda Network

The praise of Allah, the Lord of the Worlds, and the prayer of Allah and greetings to the leader of militants and the believers, Imam Mohammad Bin Abd Allah; and after:

This message is directed to the European governments...

Today we declare a bloody war on you, and we will not stop the attacks on you until you return to the right, after the end of the deadline that our sheikh Osama Ben Ladin (who Allah keeps) defined, and afterwards if you do not return to your senses, then we will declare them a fierce war in your face and in the face of your silent nations that does not move a quiet and that fasted it that it showed a thing then shows the support and the support of you. And we have started with the promise of the Italian government and on its mean head, Berlusconi, and our start by it to its disgraceful attitudes and the mean ones and their submission behind the hamlet head America ... Then he waited for us O Berlusconi and other than from your allies and your supporters, he waited for our threat that shot it for you in the beginning and shoot it now in Europe face... We will make the blood flow so that they sweep you away in their depths, you who judged on your nation by that, and Europe the unbeliever with her submission behind America judged on its nations by that also..

We will level Europe's cities and will start with you O Berlusconi, and we will make it bloody till that you return to your right O leaders and Europe nations, draw your killing missions from Iraq, and you behave a way who from before you, before you taste the bitterness of the blood...

No you are an aid of America and to the mean the disbelief leader Bush, he supported then will regret the severer of the regret on that God willing .

And he who wronged will know any return they turn back

Abu Hafs Al-Masri Brigades
The Al-Qaeda Network
28-7-2004

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Terror Threat to Europe

Muslim militants claiming links with al Qaeda have vowed a "bloody war on Europe" after a truce offered by Osama bin Laden expired earlier this month.

They also said that Italy's Prime Minister Silvio Berlusconi would be their first target for attack.

In a statement posted on an Islamist website, the group said:

"We will shake the cities of Europe and we will start with you Berlusconi, and we will make it bloody until you return to the correct path.

"Wait for us Berlusconi and your other allies as well, wait for our promise which we have revealed to you and are now revealing to Europe."

Full Story...


Added : July 28th, 2004

3,765 posted on 07/08/2005 12:50:46 PM PDT by nwctwx (Everything I need to know, I learned on the Threat Matrix)
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To: All

In a general sense, these threats (moreso to Europe than Italy) from last summer would match the threats we got from bin Laden prior to 9/11. After his fatwa in 1998, he made several warnings (some televised) of his intent to bring hell to our country. In the west, we take threats as meaning 'this will happen tomorrow, or next week' but these guys have repeatedly shown us that a threat made one day might not be followed up by action for a yr, or more.


3,767 posted on 07/08/2005 12:57:13 PM PDT by nwctwx (Everything I need to know, I learned on the Threat Matrix)
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